You don't know anything about guns. You are out of your depth.
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A History of US Gun Rights
- Thread starter Agent47
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You don't know anything about guns. You are out of your depth.
That's another. Just as long as you are subbing for an M1911AI and not an M1 Garand.
I'm not sure of the nomenclature. i do know there was more than one version.
The smallest and lightest were required by parachutists.
The M1911A1 is the .45ACP service pistol. The M1 Garand is the .30-06 main battle rifle.
FN Five Seven, Glock 17, Glock 19, Hi-Point model 995 carbine rifle, Ruger P89, Savage-Springfield 67H 12-gauge pump shotgun, and Walther P22.
All are cheaper, more common, and more likely to be used to murder someone than the AR-15. They also tend to lead to more injuries leading to death. All have been used in mass-shootings. All have a higher or equivalent human-killing power of an AR-15.
AH - my relative military family members - all officers except me - always carried pistols, mostly privately owned all automatic almost all Beretta brand.
Not true. The AR 15 shoots no faster than s lot of pistols. Pistols are mostly used in shootings. Most shootings ate black on black. AR15s have little recoil and are good for self defense by the elderly, women, and handicapped. Women especially like it.
Nothing true here. All rights come from God.
Well, let's start at the beginning of the silly, stupid video.
1. It starts with the 1920s. Gun control actually started after the civil as a method to prevent recently freed slaves the ability to defend themselves.
2. In order to boost, her argument of concerns during the 1920s of gun control, she showed a movie picture poster of a fictional story. Should we be concerned about "Zombie control" now that the walking dead is so popular?
3. The 1920s gun control was the first foray into a completely insane gun control. It limited such things as machine guns despite the fact that they were rarely used in crime. It banned suppressors because rich people didn't want people to get away with poaching on their land. The 1920s gun control should actually be relabeled "poaching control".
4. The 1968 "urgency" were elite politicians afraid of the civilian population. The "urgency" was the assassination of a President - not a crime wave. After the 1968 "gun control" was passed, a crime wave followed.
5. The picture of the "Saturday Night Special" refers to the banning of certain pistols made in other countries. This might have been good for criminals and domestic firearms manufacturers but didn't do anything about crime since they were rarely used for anything but self-defense.
6. "The full list is far too long to display here." No it isn't. She just doesn't want to because she has an agenda to push.
Dayton entertainment district shooting
Tree of Life synagogue shooting
Waffle House shooting
Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School shooting
Texas First Baptist Church massacre
Las Vegas Strip massacre
Baton Rouge police shooting
San Bernardino mass shooting
Colorado Springs shooting rampage
Chattanooga military recruitment center
Crandon shooting
That's it. That's the full list as compiled by the Leftist news source - Mother Jones. The female leftist is incredibly dishonest.
7. She later shows a "no frills" AR-15 with an adjustable stock, Picatinny rails going to the flash of the muzzle, and gives a false price of $389 for this set-up. On top of this the gun she shows has no sights. She's either an ignoramus or purposefully being deceptive.
8. She falsely states that people buy things for their AR-15 to make them more "militaristic". She then shows a picture of someone using a scope and bipod. I've never seen a soldier use a bipod on an AR-15 and a red dot is far more valuable to a soldier. The only possibility I can think of for this set-up is a police sniper as the rifle is a larger caliber AR-10 and she is stupid enough or thinks you are stupid enough to put the wrong rifle in the video. So, I guess she wants the police to be disarmed?
9. People who are into cars or guns want to look macho while doing those things said someone who never owned a nice car or a rifle. She's adding class envy to this video now.
10. You can still built your computers today. However, like most leftist media, the understanding and ability to do this is beyond her so she thinks you can't do that anymore.
11. She then says that the AR-15 was designed to kill as many people as possibly, as quickly as possible, and as efficiently as possible. Any socialist knows the most efficient method of killing people was used by the socialist government of Germany in the death camps of World War II. Although, I think that the socialist government of Russia did a much more efficient job by just taking people's food and starving them do death. Or maybe the Socialist government of China, Cambodia, or North Korea did a better job. In this way, the AR-15 just plain sucks in it's design. Once again, another lie.
12. She sounds like there aren't any needs for an AR-15. Needs include law enforcement, hog hunting, coyote hunting, competitive shooting, defense against wildlife, defense against other people, defense against drug cartels, etc.
13. She then tells the difference between a rifle wound and a pistol wound without realizing that rifles of all types generally have a higher velocity than pistols and tend to have the same wounds. The doctors she quotes are willfully ignorant and don't realize this because they tend to only treat pistol wounds - the most common weapon gun used by criminals.
14. After discussing how awesomely powerful the AR-15 is and babbly incoherently about how horrible saying "come and get them" is, she then says the AR-15 is pathetically weak. She must be schizophrenic. She can't decide which one it is. To top it off, she then supports the slaughter of innocents by the government and thinks it is despicable that innocent people have a way to defend themselves from the government.
15. She then rails against Marion Hammer because Florida changed "may issue" to "shall issue" in 1987. She also gives the wrong date of 1982. She wrongly states that Marion is stopped people "from doing anything about school masacres." This is also another lie.
16. She then compares the future to West World. The only reason why one would make such a silly false equivalence is if one is delusional. But I'm thinking she is more likely an evil harridan who wants the government to be able to murder as many people as possible.
There are 16 points. I skipped around so there are likely more. I would avoid such a woman as she would likely murder me just for fun.
When some non-white stabbed to death 4 people and wounded 12 others, the story was ignored. Dayton was ignored because the criminal liked Elizabeth Warren, a liar. In London where the police are unarmed stupidly, a guy with a machete put a sitting duck cop in the cheap 2nd class socialist hospital with serious wounds.
Let's be precise here. To my knowledge, an AR-15 has never been used in a mass shooting in the USA. Pretty much 99.5% of rifles made are cheaper than an AR-15. Nothing listed above matches the firepower of an AR-15. I almost bought an AR-15 a few years ago. With BATFE tax stamp etc, I would have had to drop almost $16,000 on it. I decided that when I got the urge, I would just shoot the M16 A2s our department had and keep the money in my pocket. I should have bought it because I was told it sold for over $25k to a class III collector when the man died and his estate sold it.
One of the officers came in a while back talking about he bought an M4. I asked him how he talked the chief into letting him do that, since it's technically not legal for the officer and not the department to own it. He said "the Chief don't know about it." I asked him how he bought it and he said at the sporting goods store. He showed it to me. Immediately from the barrel length I knew, but the absence of select fire position confirmed that he had no M4, he had what we call an "M4gery". (The civilian legal somewhat near copy)
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Do your research Rev. It's not an AR-15.
You know your guns better than that.
Tell me gunsmith. What caliber rounds are they shooting?
I am a gunsmith and Caliber is totally irrelevant to the discussion. The designation is determined by the lower receiver which bears the serial number. The upper receiver determines caliber.
A true AR-15 is the Armalite 15, s(to AR-15 when Colt bought patent) which was fully automatic. It became the M-16 a1 shortly after Colt bought the patent. It is fully automatic. A semi auto is commonly called an Ar-15, but it is no more an AR-15 than the ole grey mare is a Kentucky Derby race horse. The term became generic by improper use. Neither Armalite nor Colt changed the term, so none of this stuff being called AR-15 is an AR-15. If it can be bought without a tax stamp, it's not an AR-15.
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I think you have let your personal prejiduce come to play here. The ability to be fully automatic is there with some minor changes. What surprises me is that you believe caliber is irrelevant. Very odd indeed. You know, for a gunsmith.
Caliber is irrelevant. If I took a true Ar-15 and put a .300 blackout barrel on the upper receiver, it's still an AR-15. 5.56 is the orig military spec, but varying from that does not change what the rifle is.
How did facts become "personal preferences"?
I am sure you know that the military has built various calibers of the AR-15 platform of rifles
I volunteer as an RSO at our local gun range. A few weeks ago, a father and his son from England stopped to visit because they wanted to see what an actual range looked like. During our conversation, the father looked at an M1A and asked me if that was one of those assault rifles. I replied that in his country it probably was, but here it’s normal. 
As it should be