George Antonios
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A NON Charismatic/Pentecostal interpretation of 1Corinthians 14
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You mean a Baptist take on that Chapter?
George Antonios
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You mean that as a Pentecostal question?
No, rather as if the non charismatic viewpoint of that chapter would be the Baptist one!
George Antonios
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Yes.
Do you have this in writing also? Thanks.
Had the opportunity to listen to the first part. Hope to listen to the rest later. Enjoyed what I heard so far. A difference I have is believing tongues were for a sign rather than evangelism. On a phone, so do not have time to interact at the moment. Here is some explanation of what I mean:
http://baptistsearch.blogspot.com/2007/06/tongues-evangelistic-tool.html
http://baptistsearch.blogspot.com/2007/06/tongues-evangelistic-tool.html
George Antonios
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The short answer is no. The material is from my notes on 1Corinthians and they need much editing.
George Antonios
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I haven't read the article yet but I wouldn't fully disagree with what you wrote here.
Either way, as for outreach or for as a sign to Israel, they no longer need to exist today!
George Antonios
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Agreed as far as the supernatural part.
Nice video.
False teachers go relatively unchallenged on various passages on the Bible because true teachers don't concentrate on those passages. Consider eschatology. Jesus came in Judgement of Jerusalem in 70. True teachers don't focus on the "the great tribulation" because it happened long ago. But, false teaches talk about it all the time because, they teach, it's about to happen now.
True teaches don't focus on 1 Corinthians 14 because its application is mostly first century Christians. False teaches focus on it because, they teach, it's about their congregation.
Every Mormon is probably very family with the verse about Jesus' "other sheep." Mormons teach it's a reference to first-century North American Jews. Non-Mormons don't hear anything about that verse.
So, you have one group that frequently talks about a passage vs. another group that rarely talks about a passage. So, what is it the public mostly hears about those passages?
False teachers go relatively unchallenged on various passages on the Bible because true teachers don't concentrate on those passages. Consider eschatology. Jesus came in Judgement of Jerusalem in 70. True teachers don't focus on the "the great tribulation" because it happened long ago. But, false teaches talk about it all the time because, they teach, it's about to happen now.
True teaches don't focus on 1 Corinthians 14 because its application is mostly first century Christians. False teaches focus on it because, they teach, it's about their congregation.
Every Mormon is probably very family with the verse about Jesus' "other sheep." Mormons teach it's a reference to first-century North American Jews. Non-Mormons don't hear anything about that verse.
So, you have one group that frequently talks about a passage vs. another group that rarely talks about a passage. So, what is it the public mostly hears about those passages?
George Antonios
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You make some good points and I generally agree, but I think it's a heresy to teach that 70 A.D. was the ultimate judgment and second coming.
IF the second coming was AD 70, God is a liar, as nothing foretold that would happen when he comes back actually did!
George Antonios
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Agreed.
The Tribulation is Jesus' answer to the question his followers asked about the destruction of Herod's Temple. Was that Temple not destroyed?
They actually had 3 questions being asked, and 2 were when will temple be destroyed, and when will your Second Coming be?
“Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
1) What was Jesus's answer to the one question of when will the Temple be destroyed? When?
2) Where did the disciples bring up the second coming (and, where do you see "second" in the question)?
3) Why did the disciples bring up the end of the age?
While I wait for your answers, I'll give you mine:
1) The Temple will be destroyed within the lives of the generation then living.
2) The disciples recognized the destruction the Temple as Jesus coming in judgement, not "the second coming". They wanted signs of when the destruction was approaching. Jesus answered accordingly.
3) The disciples recognized the destruction of the Temple as the end of the age. Jesus answered accordingly.
You have to factor in all of the NT on the second coming event, and that does not accord with the preterist view regarding 70 AD!