Indeed, there are many here who promote a Roman Catholic, merit-based salvation. Their only difference is they aren't sacramentalists. Otherwise they teach that their merited actions cause God to be gracious to them. It's a twisted idea of grace and really, it's identical to Roman Catholic teaching of merited grace.
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A Novel Soteriological Explanation in the Calvinism vs Arminianism Debate
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Yes, as some see us as being with full free will, others that we exercise faith inherit to us, and others that God must give to all same salvation!
This is typical response when your so satisfied with your snobby reply. Your aren't nearly as good as you'd like people to think you are I for one am not impressed by anything you claim or say your just a clanging symbol in a world of know it alls.
MB
Which text are you referring to? I offered the following to say it didn’t matter whether one used “image” or “likeness”, since both are used to describe how God made man, and you replied with “image and likeness are two different words.”
Genesis 1:26 (KJV) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Would you like to reconsider?
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he does know the biblical greek well!This is typical response when your so satisfied with your snobby reply. Your aren't nearly as good as you'd like people to think you are I for one am not impressed by anything you claim or say your just a clanging symbol in a world of know it alls.
MB
That does not make him superior to any one else. It certainly does not make him an interpreter of scripture. Nor a learder of Christians. and certainly not any better than any one hear
MB
"Street crud"? I guess so...
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This is typical response when your so satisfied with your snobby reply. Your aren't nearly as good as you'd like people to think you are I for one am not impressed by anything you claim or say your just a clanging symbol in a world of know it alls.
MB
There is nothing of substance in this; it is only a personal attack.
What you have right is that I am not good as I am, indeed, a sinner.
If the amount of study and the amount of education I’ve received intimidates you, which it obviously does, that’s not my problem.
The Archangel
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You said it didn't matter, meaning the words are synonymous. They are not. You have offered nothing beyond your own assertion, except a modern internet dictionary that suggests--in English--image and likeness are synonyms. I stated they are different words in Hebrew. Your response was more of a "nuh uh" response. You still have offered nothing beyond you own knowledge. In an argument, the onus is on you to prove your point first, then I would counter it. Since you are unwilling to do the former, I have not done the latter. Therefore, the discussion is not worth my time.
The Archangel
Your education shows your ignorance That's how much education you have.
MB
The Archangel
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You attacked first. You don't like being attacked neither does any one else.
MB
The Archangel
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I am always amused when others take you on in a debate on what the original languages state and teach, as while not infallible, you are indeed quite learned in this area, just as John of japan is in area of textual criticism and Logos on bible versions!
The Archangel
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You are very kind. I am striving for biblical truth; sometimes I come up short, as we all do. Thank you for the kind words.
Blessings,
The Archangel
At least I cannot remember you ever using Strongs to answer in the Greek !
The Archangel
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We had a joke in our seminary language classes: Strong's isn't that strong.
Many are hung-up on lexical definitions, which are important--no doubt. But the usage of the word, which incorporates its grammatical permutations, is important. Whether a word means one lexical definition or another can be dependent on what case, stem, voice, etc. it appears in. There's a whole host of things to consider besides the lexical definition.
Blessings,
The Archangel
Yep, context and construction are key! Good to see you and reformed and MM from ole Calvinist café days still around!
No, Y1, wrong again. But I do present Romans 4:4-5 and Romans 4:23-24. And I fear you have no idea what they teach.
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