A novel view on Old Earth Creationism

Just what exactly are you talking about? Explain yourself explicitly. Prove you know that I don't believe the scriptures.

 

Ah gee, Scott, now that is simply a lazy man's better-than-thou cop out. How can anyone read your mind?

Your comment reminds of the time a brother and I went to ask an older brother what his plans for our fellowship were and why he was behaving like he was. Instead of a direct response he simply stated, "In time you all will understand." Stuff like that is snobbish baloney. Tragically, the fellowship soon dissolved under his authoritarian know-it-all behavior.

So, are you like him or are you going to be forthright here? Or is the reality happening here, that you simply do not have a logical answer for why you are saying what you are saying?

Hmmm . . .

 

Scripture still doesn't conclusively state Hell is inside the Earth. When Jesus gave the sign of Jonah, He was simply referring to being DEAD and BURIED in the earth for 3 days, etc. He never says anything about being in Hell. You're misinterpreting that passage to prove something taught to you as a young believer. Let it go man. It just is NOT important for a Christian to believe the Earth's interior houses Hell. It just isn't any doctrine or statement of faith. It is simply a concept someone put in your head. I heard the same goofy idea from fundamentalist preachers years ago and the Spirit way back then gave me a clear check in my spirit every time I heard it or read it. I didn't buy it then and I ain't being swayed now.

You're biased in your Scripture reading due to prejudice from man's ideas put in your head. Even the Greeks foolishly believed the Underworld was inside the Earth. It's all the logic reasonings and myths of men vs. hearing the Spirit of God breathe Truth. Ideas upon ideas still only yields ideas - not Truth.

 

Brother, the government and the schools could care less about ANY form of Creationism. I tried for years to simply get local libraries to carry creationism texts, with no luck.

OEC folks never try "control" any museums. You cannot provide evidence of such a claim.

And yes, Christians can blow their money on whatever they want. It is their right but I doubt most of what Christian organizations (AIG) etc spend their money on will be approved by the Lord.

 

Evolutionary, Darwinistic "science" has nothing to do with "compelling" a Christian to choose to be an OEC. It's simply looking at correct interpretation of ancient Hebrew in the Genesis account and also being willing to see countless examples God has provided that prove the earth Man walks on has been here a very, very long time. He is only a recent "implant" by the Creator. The earth's history shows vast eons existing before the creation of Adam and Eve and Paradise. Old earth creationism has never suggested the illogical tenets of Darwinism. YEC camp adherents like to state OEC adherents open the door for evolution to be true but that is simple poppycock.

 

Brother, your view is simplistic and absolutely denying a plethora of evidence indicating an old earth. I suggest you purchase the books already mentioned in this thread and READ them. Don't trust what you have been taught or preached to about Genesis.

I also just read Watchman Nee's The Mystery of Creation and it is fascinating.

Never mind what I say here. Do your own honest research like I did decades ago and perhaps the evidence against YEC will open your eyes.

What you think you know about Genesis is biased and shortsighted. Don't be afraid of the truth.

Again, just open up your mind to OEC premises and to views other than simplistic indoctrination you hold fast to.

 

1) Current day OEC has nothing to do with Darwinism. FACT.

2) Earth history has been analyzed scientifically in many ways by countless believing scientists who have come to believe in an old earth. They did not use presumption nor fall into conjecture. They used the logical minds God gave them. Because someone states the bible only teaches YEC does NOT equal the revelation of God. YEC adherents merely assert their chosen belief as the only truth because they think their narrow-minded interpretation of the Genesis creation account is God-breathed. It is NOT.

3) LOL all you like. When the Lord re-created, repaired and remade the most recent earth we have today, that was previously made formless and void -- in that unique, re-creative time-frame was what Jesus was referring to as "the beginning of creation". I speak of the well-known "Gap Theory" between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 here. Careful analysis of the ancient Hebrew words used in Genesis 1 give a strong support for the "Gap Theory". Is God capable of repairing a devastated ancient earth? Of course He is! And can the Creator Jesus correctly call it "the beginning"? Of course He can!

Were Adam and Eve created on the 6th day of this recreation of the ancient earth? Of course! Were they "latecomers" or "implants" on an older earth? Yes!

Is there a real debate about what Genesis is saying here? Of course there is! Believing Christians have debated the events of the record of creation for many years -- and it will continue until Christ returns!

There is not a question here about believing the bible -- it is simply about correct interpretation. Because someone doesn't agree with your interpretation -- does not mean they don't believe the scripture. To assert such is simply holding onto dogma and not seeking the path to the truth.

You can be a YEC if you like -- just don't assert OEC don't believe the bible. That is uncalled for.