A Practical Question for Secret Rapture, Pre-tribulationists

[postrib]

...This is clearly a future event...

Yes.

The question is, does the Bible say that the tribulation seals and trumpets will be judgments from God?

 

[Ray Berrian]

postrib,

If these Seal, Vial, and Trumpet judgments are not from God, who do you suggest is sending them on the earth in the future? I hope you don't say, Satan. God would not give him that much space in His Word, if any, to advertize what the Evil One would try to do.

The judgments are from God and are for real; the problem is we don't like to think that He will someday, in the future, deliver what He has said 2,002 years ago via His apostles.

 

[postrib]

...If these Seal, Vial, and Trumpet judgments are not from God, who do you suggest is sending them on the earth in the future?...

I believe it says the vials are God's judgment (Revelation 15:4, Revelation 16:7), but none of them are directed at us Christians.

Note that it doesn't say the seals and trumpets are God's judgment. All it says is that Jesus "opens" the seals (Revelation 6:1). Does this mean that he is the one behind them or that he is at that point allowing Satan to bring them about? (Did Pandora bring about all the suffering that came from the box she opened?) Similarly with the trumpets. Are they expressing God's wrath or announcing events brought about by Satan's wrath?

...God would not give him that much space in His Word, if any, to advertize what the Evil One would try to do...

I'm not sure what you mean here.

 

[DeafPosttrib]

Hello!

2 Thess 2:1-3 clearly telling us that the gathering together will not come till come a falling away(apostasia) first and the revealed of Antichrist.

That means we as Church will face apostasy first, and then we will face Antichrist to persecute against us first before Lord comes.

2 Thess 2:7 is not talking about Holy Spirit will leave out. It is talking about Antichrist is now restraining from being revealed, till Antichrist will take out of the way(midst- mystery) then Antichrist will be revaled - 2 Thess 2:8.

There will be only ONE judgment day - 2 Tim. 4:1, and Matt 25:31-46 too.

Have a nice day!

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 m- Amen!