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  1. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

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    I quoted the verse. You may not like the ESV as your preferred English translation, but that is the verse as devised by King James translators who added chapters and verse numbers.
    The point is, you have made an unsubstantiated assertion. I'm sure you believe what you say, but you cannot prove your assertion, nor can you say God agrees with you.
    There are prophetic verses. But, not every verse is prophetic.
     
    #21 AustinC, Sep 7, 2020
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    Sorry, but the translators of the AV1611 did not add the chapters and verses. The chapter and verse divisions were well in place for 2 or 3 hundred years before the AV1611. They were developed to aid in the dividing up the Scriptures for the Lectionaries.
     
    #22 Squire Robertsson, Sep 7, 2020
  3. Konstantin

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    I'm not going to prove anything to you. The person who seeks the truth will find it; a person who is looking for something else will wear it too. There is no third.
     
    #23 Konstantin, Sep 8, 2020
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    The born again can see most prophecies have already been fulfilled.
     
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  5. Konstantin

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    In the inspired text of the Bible, chapters are also divided into paragraphs (¶) The paragraph separates the prophetic context.

    GENESIS CHAPTER 1 KJV-
     
    #25 Konstantin, Sep 8, 2020
  6. AustinC

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    You have spoke falsely, Konstantin. It is you who has the responsibility to prove your claim. I provided a verse. There is no prophecy in that verse.
     
    #26 AustinC, Sep 8, 2020
  7. Konstantin

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    No.
     
    #27 Konstantin, Sep 13, 2020
  8. AustinC

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    Funny how you didn't quote my entire post. Let's recap:

    "You have spoke falsely, Konstantin. It is you who has the responsibility to prove your claim. I provided a verse. There is no prophecy in that verse."

    Not every word or verse in the Bible is prophetic. Your claim is demonstrably false. Yet, you choose to die on that hill, claiming something that not even God himself claims.
     
    #28 AustinC, Sep 13, 2020
  9. Konstantin

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    No, I have not told a lie and I have not any responsibility to you.
     
    #29 Konstantin, Sep 13, 2020
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    Yes there can be, if two disagreeing parties are both in error.
     
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  11. AustinC

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    You spoke falsely and you are responsible before God for speaking falsely.
     
    #31 AustinC, Sep 13, 2020
  12. Konstantin

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    No, you have the lie.
     
    #32 Konstantin, Sep 14, 2020
  13. Quantrill

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    This topic is interesting. And I think Konstantin may be on to something, though I am not taking sides at this point. Hasn't anyone here ever read a New Testament quote from the Old, and then wondered how in the world was that prophetic. Or how in the world would anyone have known it was prophetic.

    One that comes to mind is (Matt. 2:17-18) quoting (Jer. 31:15). I know I have run across others before but don't remember them now. I will try and find them.

    Quantrill
     
    #33 Quantrill, Sep 14, 2020
  14. Konstantin

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    "Rachel weeping for her children, and would not be comforted, because they are not" (Matt.2:18)

    This prophecy will come true a few days. There will be a rapture of "Church of the first born" (Heb.12:23). Rachel here is the prototype of all the local churches that will remain on earth during the time of tribulation. Children is a sheafe of the first fruits of the harvest (Lev.23:10), or faithful (Rev17:14).
     
    #34 Konstantin, Sep 14, 2020
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    I'm not so sure about that. (Matthew 2:17) indicates that the slaying of the children by Herod was the 'fulfillment' of that prophecy.

    Types can certainly be prophetic. But then one will base the 'type' on his method of interpretation. So if the method of interpretation is flawed, or different, so will be the type.

    You speak of the Rapture and the Tribulation. I hold to these also as yet future events. But, I would disagree as to the churches in (Revelation) representing Rachel. I am Dispensational in doctrine for the most part. I don't mix the Church and Israel. So I would always see 'Rachael weeping for her children' being those of Israel.

    Quantrill
     
    #35 Quantrill, Sep 14, 2020
  16. Konstantin

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    The future time will be 49 years, not 7. The conventional interpretation is wrong. The last 7 years of this period are determined for Israel. This is Daniel's 70th week. ALL people who will participate in the rapture of the Church of the first born will know this date to one sekunda. More A righteous branch, Part 1
     
    #36 Konstantin, Sep 14, 2020
  17. AustinC

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    You said that every verse is prophetic. Nowhere is that statement made in scripture, nor is it implied. Therefore, you have made a false assertion.
    Kill your pride and admit you are wrong.
     
    #37 AustinC, Sep 14, 2020
  18. Konstantin

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    If the prophetic meaning of the Bible verses is closed to you by God, then you are unable to understand what they imply.
     
    #38 Konstantin, Sep 14, 2020
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    They aren't prophetic. And, when I asked, you had no clue.
    Therefore, God has never claimed that every verse is prophetic. You have no clue what is prophetic. And the specific verse is a list of who fathered who. No prophesy.
    Konstantin, every reader can now clearly see you are wrong in that assertion. I wash my sandals. Live in your pride if you must.

    Peace

    This is my last post on this thread.
     
    #39 AustinC, Sep 14, 2020
  20. Konstantin

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    I'm not going to hide my satisfaction with this event
     
    #40 Konstantin, Sep 14, 2020
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