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A Time for War

Discussion in '2007 Archive' started by freedom's cause, Feb 28, 2007.

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  1. DeeJay

    DeeJay New Member

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    Humm, Even if I define the word, you will find a way to fit what America does into it.

    Why dont you play the game.

    Do you support the terrorists that dumped Brittish tea into the Boston harbor. Do you support the terrorists that rebeled against their country Britan in the revolutionary war.
     
  2. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    The terrorists you are refering to made every attempt possible to come to agreeable terms with their sovereign the King of England and in turn he refused all their demands, thought of himself as above the law and resorted to using a terrorist campaign against his own people. Were the coloinists wrong to take up arms against an aggresor that thought of himself as "the decider" and acted unlawfully and brutely towards them?

    Read thier grievences for yourself.

    He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
    He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
    He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
    He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
    He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
    He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
    He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
    He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
    He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
    He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
    He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
    He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
    He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
    For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
    For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
    For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
    For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
    For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
    For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
    For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
    For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
    For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
    He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
    He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
    He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
    He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
    He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

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    Our current decider has himself as well as many past adminstrations both D's & R's have done many of the same things the colonists objected to.

    It was not standard practice of the colonists or revolutionaries to secretly use false flag terrorist campaigns or fund and support terrorist groups to overthrow governments (while denying it all and lying to their own people) that didn't agree with becoming subservient to Washington and Wall Street.

    I answered your questions best I could (even though you never gave us your own definition of terrorism) now it's your turn.
     
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  3. NiteShift

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    Well, you stated that the "Wipe Israel off the Map" statement was false, and asked for sources. And just by the way, you stated that CNN, FOX, BBC were not acceptable sources to you (because they are apparently 'In on It'?) You yourself set up the conditions for what you would accept as reliable. I provided one and you say I don't use my brain. I can assure you that I use my brain just as much as you do, the difference being that I don't immerse myself in, and obtain all knowledge from, the conspiracy sites.
     
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  4. 2 Timothy2:1-4

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    To say that the comment was never made by the Iranian President is equivilent to the Iranian President denying the holocaust. completely absurd and on the record in to many publications.
     
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    closed per notice. LE
     
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