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A Warning From a Baptist Church

timf

Member
I ran across this web site and one can feel the hurt and pain from someone who has seen his church disintegrate. I thought it might be of interest for others.

 

Tenchi

Active Member
I ran across this web site and one can feel the hurt and pain from someone who has seen his church disintegrate. I thought it might be of interest for others.


It seems the person writing the blog (or whatever it is) has yet to learn the real reasons churches die. It ain't a denominational distinctive thing. Not hardly. Why chase after all the programs, approaches, attractions and structures in the first place? It's to make up for the absence of what God intends should draw people into any Bible-believing, evangelical church.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
It seems the person writing the blog (or whatever it is) has yet to learn the real reasons churches die. It ain't a denominational distinctive thing. Not hardly. Why chase after all the programs, approaches, attractions and structures in the first place? It's to make up for the absence of what God intends should draw people into any Bible-believing, evangelical church.

Having read the blog I think that is what he/she is saying. The church has to get back to or better yet never loose the real reason we are here. To spread the gospel message and to grow up strong bible believing Christians.

I have been in churches that have gone down the road of trying to be the latest thing. It is a sad thing to see the pastoral staff change from shepherds of a flock to managers of a business.
 

Tenchi

Active Member
I have been in churches that have gone down the road of trying to be the latest thing. It is a sad thing to see the pastoral staff change from shepherds of a flock to managers of a business.

Having been in the Church for fifty years now (in the Baptist denomination), I've watched many churches diminish and die - more in the last two decades, though, than ever before. If it isn't leadership scandal that has fractured and dissolved these churches, it is a slow migration from a concrete, transformative, daily, personal experience of God. When I speak to believers today of "life in the Spirit," of "walking in the Spirit," they don't really know what I'm talking about - certainly not experientially - and often assume I mean the blasphemous garbage promoted by the WoF/Prosperity Gospel/New Thought/N.A.R. folk. But the Spirit-filled-and-led life is basic Christianity, it's the normal Christian life. That so many professing Christians around me know nothing of this sort of living and have settled instead into what amounts to Boot-Strap Christianity suggests to me that at least one of the primary reasons for the slowly apostasizing Church is an absence of the supernatural life and work of the Holy Spirit in it. And in the absence of the transforming work of the Spirit in the lives of believers, either "sound and fury signifying nothing" has filled the void, or a dry, academic, institutionalized "faith" has formed where expansive knowledge of doctrine and high-level seminary credentials equate to spiritual maturity. In either direction, churches move away from God and, sooner or later, find they are led by men who live in gross, secret sin and constituted of members who don't know what it is to be truly taught, convicted, strengthened, comforted and transformed by the Holy Spirit.
 

Paleouss

Member
Greetings all. Peace to you.

Just my two cents.

Churches have always been founded on evangelism and outreach. That is how they start. They sometimes, maybe even often, loose sight of that. As they grow, there starts to become a pull inward and a reduction of outward focus. This is the death call of the church. That is, when the focus is mostly on trying to keep who is in the pews in the pews and not bringing in those that are not. The church slowly dies.

Christ called us to take it to the world, not keep it on our street.

Peace to you brothers
 
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