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Abortion a clarifying factor?

Does supporting abortion clarify that one is not a Christian?

  • Yes. You cannot be a Christian and support abortion.

    Votes: 5 17.2%
  • No. You can be a Christian and agree with abortion.

    Votes: 13 44.8%
  • Other answer.

    Votes: 11 37.9%

  • Total voters
    29

StefanM

Well-Known Member
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I believe abortion is sinful, but I cannot make this kind of determination.
 

Jim1999

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Abortion if necessary, but not necessarily abortion. No abortion; no d&c's........they also abort a mass within the womb. No abortion; some women WILL surely die. Some abortions have been known to save a life from an auto accident. Which life are you talking about?

Cheers,

Jim
 

Spinach

New Member
A few years ago I would have said that one could absolutely not be a Christian and support abortion. Now I've changed my mind.

I am not pro-choice and I would like to see Roe/Wade reversed and go back to the day when life-saving abortions were the only ones legal, but I am not the judge of someone else's soul.
 

padredurand

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SaggyWoman said:
Is supporting abortion clarify that one is not a Christian?

A person's world view does not determine whether they are saved or not.

"And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men, by which we must be saved."
Acts 4:12 NASB

The name is Jesus Christ not Roe v. Wade. To say that a person's salvation is dependent on their stance on specific issues is adding works to the condition of salvation. That said I do not see how a regenerated person could reconcile their Christian faith with the shedding of innocent blood.
 

Marcia

Active Member
I was strongly pro-choice before I was saved and it took over a year after I was saved for me to see that abortion was wrong (as well as some other things). So I think you can be saved and be confused on this for various reasons.
 

donnA

Active Member
no d&c's........they also abort a mass within the womb
d&c's are not normally done as an abortion, but can be and have been used that way, that mass isn't always a baby don't assume what you don't really know about the female body, d&c does not always result in an abortion. You need to learn something about women's real and actual health ebfore making the smae comment on it over and over proving you know very little about the female body.
How about some true facts Jim, but since yu've already been told the truth, I don't expect you to beleive truth now either.
When is D&C carried out?

There are two main reasons for performing a D&C:


  • an evacuation D&C is performed in a recently pregnant woman to remove tissue remaining in the womb.
  • a gynaecological D&C is part of the investigation of a woman who is experiencing heavy or irregular periods or vaginal bleeding after the menopause.
    When is an evacuation performed in a recently pregnant woman?

    After, or sometimes during, a miscarriage, the gynaecologist will examine you to see if there is any tissue from the pregnancy remaining in the womb.

    An ultrasound scan is the most reliable way to determine this. An evacuation is usually advised to avoid heavy bleeding and prevent a possible infection of the uterus.

    An alternative to surgery is a medical evacuation that uses tablets to cause the womb to contract and empty itself. The success rate of a medical evacuation in completely emptying the uterus is slightly less than the surgical approach, but is an option for some women.

    If you miscarried at an early stage in pregnancy, or if the amount of remaining tissue is small, a D&C may not be necessary since the remaining tissue will be passed as part of the next period.
http://www.baptistboard.com/Reasons for the Procedure

A D&C may be used as a diagnostic or therapeutic procedure for abnormal bleeding. A D&C may determine the cause of abnormal or excessive uterine bleeding, to detect cancer, or as part of infertility (inability to become pregnant) investigation

A D&C may be used following a miscarriage to remove the fetus and other tissues if they have not all been naturally passed. Infection or heavy bleeding can occur if these tissues are not completely removed. This type of D&C may also be called a surgical evacuation of the uterus.
Occasionally following childbirth, small pieces of the placenta (afterbirth) remain adhered to the endometrium and are not passed. This can cause bleeding or infection. A D&C may be used to remove these fragments so that the endometrium can heal properly.
http://www.stjohnsmercy.org/healthinfo/test/gyn/TP111.asp

multiply sites all giving the same medical information.
http://www.google.com/search?source...s=GWYA,GWYA:2005-33,GWYA:en&q=reasons+for+d&c
 

bobbyd

New Member
i am pro-life and believe abortion on demand to be sinful because of my faith in Christ...but cannot determine if someone else is a born again believer based on their stance.
 
Yes, you can be a Christian and believe that abortion is permitted in certain circumstances. There are as many reasons for abortion as there are people. I don't know of anyone who is "pro-abortion"....just people who believe that no one can make that decision for women and their families. Personally, it is an issue that I have struggled with for 35 years.....and I have been on both sides of the issue. It's easy to say that abortion should never be permitted under any circumstances.....until you or someone in your family finds themselves in a position where that decision must be made.
 

donnA

Active Member
just people who believe that no one can make that decision for women and their families.
How about God? He has told us in His word. We could just ignore it. But then we can never speak about sin again.
The only time 'the decision' must be made is when the mother's life is in certain danger. Murdering a baby is still murdering a baby, no matter what. God is in charge of who gets pregnant and who doesn't. Abortion is saying I don't want God's plan for me, I want to do life my way, not His.
 

John Toppass

Active Member
Site Supporter
I think another answer such as : you might be a non or semi practicing Christian who is confused about what "thou shall not murder" actually means when God says it.
 

faithgirl46

Active Member
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Jim1999 said:
Abortion if necessary, but not necessarily abortion. No abortion; no d&c's........they also abort a mass within the womb. No abortion; some women WILL surely die. Some abortions have been known to save a life from an auto accident. Which life are you talking about?

Cheers,

Jim
I have reead or sen news about women whose life was saved when she had an abortion. She may have had Toxemia Pre-eclapmsas or ecalampsia early in the pregnancy which theartened her life.
Faithgirl
 

Marcia

Active Member
faithgirl46 said:
I have reead or sen news about women whose life was saved when she had an abortion. She may have had Toxemia Pre-eclapmsas or ecalampsia early in the pregnancy which theartened her life.
Faithgirl

This does happen, but it's somewhat rare. I knew someone years ago who had an ectopic pregnancy and almost died. In that case, the baby could not have been saved at all - the baby was in the Fallopian tube and had never gone to the uterus.

I think the need to save the mother's life with an abortion is something around 1% or less of all abortions.
 
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