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Abortion = Mixed Blessing?

KenH

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Ivon Denosovich said:
It appears to be in the eternal best interest of unwanted children.

It makes salvation sound like it is a matter of the luck of the draw - be aborted and be saved or be born and go to Hell; be born in a nation where the gospel is widely availabe and your "chances" of being saved are much higher than in other nations.

I think it is best that we follow God's commands. God will take care of the rest.
 

2 Timothy2:1-4

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KenH said:
It makes salvation sound like it is a matter of the luck of the draw - be aborted and be saved or be born and go to Hell; be born in a nation where the gospel is widely availabe and your "chances" of being saved are much higher than in other nations.

I think it is best that we follow God's commands. God will take care of the rest.


Good word!:thumbs:
 

Deacon

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KenH said:
I think it is best that we follow God's commands. God will take care of the rest.
Good advise.

As you do not know the way the spirit comes to the bones in the womb of a woman with child, so you do not know the work of God who makes everything.
Ecclesiastes 11:5 ESV

I’ve never been convinced that the aborted are instantly transported to heaven.
If it were so then abortion would be among the greatest ways to evangelize the lost.

I think the bible remains silent on what happens.

I believe we should trust God for their care, knowing that he will do what is righteous.

Rob
 

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kubel said:
I know this topic brings out many emotions and might sound offensive, but I doubt it was the OP's intent to stir up such responses. Lets look at it logically (with a few assumptions) without being offended by discussing something as obviously wrong as abortion (if that's possible)...

100 people are killed before birth and all 100 of those people go to heaven.
100 people are eventually killed after birth and only 5 of those people end up going to heaven.

Since there's (presumably) a guarantee of salvation for everyone who is aborted, and a minority of people who are not aborted will likely never accept Christ (and will go to hell), isn't there just a tad bit of a blessing there even amongst the horrible reality that lives are being snuffed out? I think that was the intent of the direction of this thread by the OP.

I guess it really depends on which point of view you are taking. From man's extraordinarily limited understanding and knowledge, it may seem there is some kind of blessing involved.

But from God's point of view, abortion for that reason or any reason is a total insult. It tells Him that He does not know what He is doing. It denies that He has a plan for each life He creates. And, in the long run, Calvinism aside, it may very well mean that one of the dead children could have been the means God planned to use to call other people to Him. So what sort of blessing is that? Will God use others? Of course. But the pain and suffering that may have been avoided if that other child had lived will be known only by God until the judgment.
 

Ivon Denosovich

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Sopranette said:
There is no blessing at all in abortion.

This is really what I intended to discuss, whether or not God can make something good out of man's evil intentions. I'm also wondering whether or not God allows (not approves of) abortion because of the lack of evangelism.
 
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ktn4eg

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I'm glad that the Virgin Mary didn't believe in abortion.

I've often wondered what the loose tongues in Nazareth back in her day were like......

"Yeah, Mary, that angel story you came up with is pretty good! We'd have never thought up one like that. Now, come on, who did you really sleep with?"
 

Sopranette

New Member
Ivon Denosovich said:
This is really what I intended to discuss, whether or not God can make something good out of man's evil intentions. I'm also wondering whether or not God allows (not approves of) abortion because of the lack of evangelism.


God can always make something good out of Man's evil, but to test Him by continuing to do evil, expecting Him to make something good from it, it completely wrong.

love,

Sopranette
 

Ivon Denosovich

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I Am Blessed 17 said:
I'm glad my mother didn't believe abortion was a 'mixed blessing'...

ktn4eg said:
'm glad that the Virgin Mary didn't believe in abortion.

While I understand the need for one and all to play "me too" in condmening abortion, why do you think God ALLOWS abortion? That's what's puzzling me. Do you think it could be due to a lack of evangelism? Could this be a situation like where God used evil pagan nations to murder innocent Israeli children in the OT so as to turn thier hearts back to him?
 
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Ivon Denosovich

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Sopranette said:
God can always make something good out of Man's evil, but to test Him by continuing to do evil, expecting Him to make something good from it, it completely wrong.

love,

Sopranette
I'm not advocating continuing to do evil. Think of this way, if I started a thread wondering about the theological significance of the damage done by storms that wouldn't mean that I want the storms to happen.
 
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SBCPreacher

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Ivon Denosovich said:
...why do you think God ALLOWS abortion?
Why does God ALLOW any sin? We get the privilege of choosing this day who we will serve. When we choose to sin, we're definitely NOT choosing to serve God.

God is the perfect Gentleman, and He will allow us to sin if we want to. He will not force Himself or His will on anyone.
 

2 Timothy2:1-4

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Ivon Denosovich said:
While I understand the need for one and all to play "me too" in condmening abortion, why do you think God ALLOWS abortion? That's what's puzzling me. Do you think it could be due to a lack of evangelism? Could this be a situation like where God used evil pagan nations to murder innocent Israeli children in the OT so as to turn thier hearts back to him?

How in the world could anyone tie a percieved lack of evanelism to God allowing abortion. This is wierd.
 
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