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Abortion: Will mankind be accountable?

FollowTheWay

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You cannot bring back the lives of the dead, but you can stand against the current slaughter of innocents in the womb. To do otherwise is to demonstrate agreement with the historical elimination of those you claim to grieve, and most certainly does not demonstrate a belief that all lives are precious to God.
The walking dead out out on the streets of your city today in the form of homeless people who need shelter, food and medical care. You stand against providing these for them, the truly needy. You are murdering them.
 

HankD

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The walking dead out out on the streets of your city today in the form of homeless people who need shelter, food and medical care. You stand against providing these for them, the truly needy. You are murdering them.

Not here. In the past I have worked with the homeless.
Here in the Seattle area there is no need for people to be homeless,
There are those who are even put up in local hotels in times of need.

Food, shelter and clothing are available for the taking.
ER is available 24/7.

Here is a partial list of resources:

Homeless Resources (Seattle Crisis Resource Directory)
 

FollowTheWay

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Not here. In the past I have worked with the homeless.
Here in the Seattle area there is no need for people to be homeless,
There are those who are even put up in local hotels in times of need.

Food, shelter and clothing are available for the taking.
ER is available 24/7.

Here is a partial list of resources:

Homeless Resources (Seattle Crisis Resource Directory)
That's admirable. The situation is different in different parts of the country. For one thing, your EMS seems to be top flight. In many locales including the N Atlanta area I live in, EMS has been privatized. It's no longer provided by the city as a service like police and fire. A friend of mine with epilepsy passed out on a MARTA platform. Someone called 911. Fine. But afterwards he got a bill for $4,000 for a 10 mile ambulance trip! This is charged as an out-of network bill on all insurance policies except Medicare. Under Medicare, the charge would have been "only $850!" This infuriates me. And it's not just in the South. Boston does the same thing as do something like 30% of municipalities.
 

HankD

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That's admirable. The situation is different in different parts of the country. For one thing, your EMS seems to be top flight. In many locales including the N Atlanta area I live in, EMS has been privatized. It's no longer provided by the city as a service like police and fire. A friend of mine with epilepsy passed out on a MARTA platform. Someone called 911. Fine. But afterwards he got a bill for $4,000 for a 10 mile ambulance trip! This is charged as an out-of network bill on all insurance policies except Medicare. Under Medicare, the charge would have been "only $850!" This infuriates me. And it's not just in the South. Boston does the same thing as do something like 30% of municipalities.
Admittedly Seattle is one of the most liberal cities in the US.

OTOH there is a large constituency of those homeless who will not take advantage of these services and sleep in public garages, underpasses, bridges....
There are also MANY "panhandlers" who according to one news report could make as much as $900.00/week.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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The walking dead out out on the streets of your city today in the form of homeless people who need shelter, food and medical care. You stand against providing these for them, the truly needy. You are murdering them.
Good job making wild accusations with zero evidence. How about you taking care of your homeless, while the rest take care of theirs?

But I'll play your little game for a moment by saying that your 50 million illegal aliens in the country are stealing from and murdering your poor and homeless while you aid and abet. The point is that you are at least as guilty of whatever you are accusing others of. The policies you support are not a help but a hindrance, and have now led to the slaughter of 60 million babies in the US alone. No excuse.
 

carpro

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Not here. In the past I have worked with the homeless.
Here in the Seattle area there is no need for people to be homeless,
There are those who are even put up in local hotels in times of need.

Food, shelter and clothing are available for the taking.
ER is available 24/7.

Here is a partial list of resources:

Homeless Resources (Seattle Crisis Resource Directory)

First the lefties price the middle class out of the housing market forcing many to become homeless. Then the city becomes a "sanctuary" for illegals with an open invitation to come to Seattle and be homeless. The streets become an open cesspool of trash and human feces.

Homelessness by design... A Project by the left to create a permanent poverty class that will vote democrat just to get their next meal.
 

777

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I only wish they were just slaughtering innocents in the womb. Now they are pushing to kill them out of the womb after a full term birth, as well.

It's monstrous and evil and democrats are the ones pushing it and voting for it.

So called "Christian" democrats included, who lie through their teeth when they say they are pro life, then vote for evil democrats to do their ugly bidding for them

To them, "pro-life" means crying buckets of tears over some murderer about to get the needle. Or they'll quickly change the subject to "unjustified wars" and the poor and claim you don't care about the needy so you have no moral authority to object to abortion on demand, even after the birth. The thing is, if they support doing this to the most innocent of us all, what else do you think they're capable of?
 

carpro

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To them, "pro-life" means crying buckets of tears over some murderer about to get the needle. Or they'll quickly change the subject to "unjustified wars" and the poor and claim you don't care about the needy so you have no moral authority to object to abortion on demand, even after the birth. The thing is, if they support doing this to the most innocent of us all, what else do you think they're capable of?

Simple. If they can get away with legally murdering children in the name of "choice", they will one day go after the elderly for the same reason. Once they get used to killing the vulnerable in our society, their appetite for legal murder will branch out to other "deplorables". And some so called "Christians" are willing participants in the progressive slaughter of the innocent.
 

HankD

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Simple. If they can get away with legally murdering children in the name of "choice", they will one day go after the elderly for the same reason. Once they get used to killing the vulnerable in our society, their appetite for legal murder will branch out to other "deplorables". And some so called "Christians" are willing participants in the progressive slaughter of the innocent.

It could be within the realm of possibility that they can do it NOW to the elderly if your state has an assisted suicide program. We do here in WA, also OR too.

If you are elderly and you are evaluated as incompetent and/or too sick to decide on your own and you have a DNR - It's possible. Normally you have to request it if you are "terminal".

No doubt that criteria will reduced to the same as the new baby murder criteria.
Doctor and first of kin will decide if you would be better off being "put to sleep" like an old dog or cat.

OH But it's OK, they will make you "comfortable" first, then - see you in heaven brother.

DNC Platform for 2020 - Abortion Euthanasia Eugenics.
 
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HankD

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Think about it - The $$$ that Abortion, euthanasia and eugenics would save.

Abortion - Less children, less cost of education.

Euthanasia - shorter period of old age means less cost at the time of life when health care is the highest.

Eugenics - Sterilize those with defective DNA - Yes its coming if the LORD tarries.
It also works along with abortion - eliminate those with birth defects early on in the pregnancy, those who slip by - make them comfortable at birth then ... never mind.

Huxley would be proud.
 

FollowTheWay

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Good job making wild accusations with zero evidence. How about you taking care of your homeless, while the rest take care of theirs?

But I'll play your little game for a moment by saying that your 50 million illegal aliens in the country are stealing from and murdering your poor and homeless while you aid and abet. The point is that you are at least as guilty of whatever you are accusing others of. The policies you support are not a help but a hindrance, and have now led to the slaughter of 60 million babies in the US alone. No excuse.
I have supported homeless people here in Atlanta if that's what you mean by "your homeless." Are you saying it is a wild accusation that there are homeless people in America? There are not 50 million illegal aliens in the U.S. Real data (as opposed to Trump fantasy data) says:

The study, published by the Pew Research Center on Tuesday, put the number of undocumented immigrants in the United States at 10.7 million in 2016, down from a peak of 12.2 million in 2007.

Another study showed this number dropped by another 400,000 in 2017. So today there are about 10 million illegal aliens. Immigrants commit fewer crimes than the average for the whole population. How does feeding and housing the poor contribute to abortion? Unbelievable nonsense.
 

HankD

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I have supported homeless people here in Atlanta if that's what you mean by "your homeless." Are you saying it is a wild accusation that there are homeless people in America? There are not 50 million illegal aliens in the U.S. Real data (as opposed to Trump fantasy data) says:

The study, published by the Pew Research Center on Tuesday, put the number of undocumented immigrants in the United States at 10.7 million in 2016, down from a peak of 12.2 million in 2007.

Another study showed this number dropped by another 400,000 in 2017. So today there are about 10 million illegal aliens. Immigrants commit fewer crimes than the average for the whole population. How does feeding and housing the poor contribute to abortion? Unbelievable nonsense.

We have no idea how many "undocumented immigrants " there are in America.
Probably between 10 and 50 million.

"Immigrants commit fewer crimes than the average for the whole population"

Of little comfort to the victims of the crimes committed by "undocumented immigrants".

Again if we could only eliminate much of the hatred between the two major parties and PASS SOME MEANINGFUL legislation we would actually end some of the suffering of our neighbors south of the border.

I saw this coming and growing way back in the JFK days when I was a blue-dog Democrat.

It is now gone beyond belief. What's going on right now IMO is DNC vengeance for Bill Clinton's impeachment which I thought gave the RNC a HUGE black eye. To be honest IMO a censure for his peccadilloes would have been enough.
 

FollowTheWay

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We have no idea how many "undocumented immigrants " there are in America.
Probably between 10 and 50 million.

"Immigrants commit fewer crimes than the average for the whole population"

Of little comfort to the victims of the crimes committed by "undocumented immigrants".

Again if we could only eliminate much of the hatred between the two major parties and PASS SOME MEANINGFUL legislation we would actually end some of the suffering of our neighbors south of the border.

I saw this coming and growing way back in the JFK days when I was a blue-dog Democrat.

It is now gone beyond belief. What's going on right now IMO is DNC vengeance for Bill Clinton's impeachment which I thought gave the RNC a HUGE black eye. To be honest IMO a censure for his peccadilloes would have been enough.

"Immigrants commit fewer crimes than the average for the whole population"
Of little comfort to the victims of the crimes committed by "undocumented immigrants".

I think it's important to note that immigrants are more law-abiding than the average American. I don't understand why you don't.
 

carpro

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I think it's important to note that immigrants are more law-abiding than the average American. I don't understand why you don't.

Because when it comes to illegal immigrants, it's a lie.. Every single one of them is a law breaker.
 

HankD

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"Immigrants commit fewer crimes than the average for the whole population"
Of little comfort to the victims of the crimes committed by "undocumented immigrants".

I think it's important to note that immigrants are more law-abiding than the average American. I don't understand why you don't.
What kind of immigrants? Undocumented? They are still law breakers if they broke the law either to get in illegally or by over staying their visa, vacation, whatever.
 

777

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Because when it comes to illegal immigrants, it's a lie.. Every single one of them is a law breaker.

that's right, just another lie by the left:

https://www.americanthinker.com/art...betts_and_the_lower_alien_crime_rate_lie.html

but they don't care, they need all the votes they can get since they've aborted their offspring. Also the reason why your property taxes are going through the roof. Face it, today's Democratic Party isn't just the party of abortion, they're also the party of illegal immigration.

The entire abortion issue has been steeped in lies from the beginning. It was true Satansists were out there cheering in Austin while that liar Wendy Davis was giving her filibuster. just like the NY State General Assembly burst into applause when they passed their disgusting bill last week.
 

FollowTheWay

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First the lefties price the middle class out of the housing market forcing many to become homeless. Then the city becomes a "sanctuary" for illegals with an open invitation to come to Seattle and be homeless. The streets become an open cesspool of trash and human feces.

Homelessness by design... A Project by the left to create a permanent poverty class that will vote democrat just to get their next meal.
How did the "lefties" price the middle class out of the housing market? The righties own most of the property especially in poor neighborhoods and control the banks.
 

HankD

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How did the "lefties" price the middle class out of the housing market? The righties own most of the property especially in poor neighborhoods and control the banks.
What those irredeemable deplorables clinging to their bibles and guns stinking up the aisles of Walmart?
 
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