Absolutely amazing!!!

[Frogman]

Adam Clarke is a little eccentric, according to CH Spurgeon, All commentators are men, all are subject to error, myself included. The Bible is not subject to this error. If you will show from my posts in "the Bible doesn't mention it much" concerning the order whether it is 1. regenration; 2. faith; or 1. faith; 2. regeneration.

It is from Scripture that I do not believe the second sequence can be proven. But from Scripture is the foundation of the first sequence found.

Bro. Dallas Eaton

 

[Yelsew]

The problem is that you are attempting to show that there is a difference between 'regeneration' and 'faith'. No such difference exists!

The Reality is that Faith is regeneration and it involves going from a state of no faith to a state of faith.

Going from spiritually dead to spiritually alive in God's eyes is regeneration.

Going from not believing to believing is regeneration.

Going from what one was to what one will be is regeneration.

Regeneration can be relatively quick or it can take a long time.

During the change from one state to another, one can be said to already be in the 'changed-to' state for once one leaves the 'changed-from' state, they are already in a 'changed-to' state even if not already at the terminal or final state.

Thus it is we are all in 'regeneration' until we arrive at some 'terminal' state.

 

[Frogman]

And so we deny the plain sense of I John 3.14

1 John 3:14  ¶We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.


This passage doesn't support a long drawn out process.

Bro. Dallas Eaton

 

[Yelsew]

Originally posted by Frogman:
And so we deny the plain sense of I John 3.14

1 John 3:14 ¶We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.


This passage doesn't support a long drawn out process.

Bro. Dallas Eaton

I did not say regeneration is a "long drawn out process". I John 3:14 provides a sympton of a change. "We 'Know' that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the bretheren. ..."

The little change from not loving to loving a little is regeneration. Further regeneration can be seen as loving a yet little bit more. I don't think I've ever witnessed, in man, an instantaneous change from 'complelely unloving' to 'Loving to the utmost'. I have witnessed man's changes from completely unloving to loving, but it takes growth in the nurture and admonition of the Lord to achieve 'loving to the utmost'. I suppose some would refer to that as striving toward perfection. I call it part of regeneration, because it is a continuance of the initial change.

 

[KenH]

Originally posted by Yelsew:
I call it part of regeneration, because it is a continuance of the initial change.

It's not a continuation of regeneration. It is progressive sanctification.

 

[Yelsew]

Originally posted by KenH:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Yelsew:
I call it part of regeneration, because it is a continuance of the initial change.

It's not a continuation of regeneration. It is progressive sanctification. </font>[/QUOTE]Being "Born again" is but the first stage of Christian life. And Such life is a continuation from being born again through are natural death at which time our "regenerated spirit" departs the dead flesh and lives with Jesus eternally. How can you say it is not a continuation?