Abstinence should be the only policy!

Not even thinking from a Biblical perspective, It's sad that the most creative solution we can come up with in the AIDS crisis is to give a person a condom and tell them to have at it. I mean, if that is considered "doing something" to protect the innocent, then it is a cruel hoax we are playing.

 

TexasSky,

Correct - you've got it right. Thanks for the backup.

And I agree with you on making laws against extramarital sex. It's actually the best idea I've heard yet.

 

So your solution is to tell a man who has become infected with AIDS by promiscuity (having shown a habitual disregard of the safety of the woman he's with), "Never have sex with your wife again"? I predict a success rate of 0%.

What's your creative solution?

So far it sounds like your solution is to wait until laws are passed condemning promiscuity. Let's consider the fact that in many areas of Africa, polygamy is a culturally enshrined practice. Also consider that in many areas, promiscuity is considered masculine--and then compound this by the fad for "dry sex." Then consider that in many areas, armed men kidnap young girls and rape them or force them to marry older men. And then there is the problem of widow cleansing.

It is more likely that extramarital sex will be outlawed in the US than in Africa. And I can tell you that is not going to happen in the foreseeable future.

Once again, you have not presented any viable solution to the problem.

I am somewhat puzzled at how you think standing by watching someone essentially be killed is biblical.

 

And you think with immorality like that, passing out condoms is actually going to help? Like TexasSky said, I'm pretty sure a rapist isn't going to use a condom.

And I am somewhat puzzled that you think standing by watching someone essetially be killed [spiritually] is Biblical.

 

Yes, I have. You just don't think it is viable nor a solution. Which is sad. Listen, if I had a "viable solution" for every problem this world possesses that would make me God. Oh wait, He does have a viable solution for every problem this world possesses. It's called the Gospel. I'm sorry that you see it as so weak and paltry that you need to add man-made, worldly, sin-encouraging methods to it.

 

And you think with immorality like that, passing out condoms is actually going to help? Like TexasSky said, I'm pretty sure a rapist isn't going to use a condom.</font>[/QUOTE]No, rapists won't use condoms, but if they avoid becoming infected themselves by using condoms for their own protection when they visit prostitutes the innocent girls that they rape will be in less danger.

And why use the most extreme example? If the people don't have the idea that condoms are unmanly and if they are told that using a condom is responsible if they suspect or know they are infected with HIV, general condom use will go up, and seroconversion rates among wives of infected men will go down.

And I am somewhat puzzled that you think standing by watching someone essetially be killed [spiritually] is Biblical. </font>[/QUOTE]How is it spiritually killing a man to tell him to use a condom while having sex with his wife if he knows or suspects that he has HIV?

You accused me of handing out condoms and telling me to "have at it." I guess your alternative is to say, "Don't have sex!" Then when they say, "I'm going to anyways" (plus some expletives, no doubt), you say, "All right, carry on then"!

 

And they'll still be going to hell, unless they repent and believe. And they will be more comfortable in their rampant immorality, and thus hardened further from the Gospel. Besides, come back to me after 50 years of the Condom Sweepstakes and let me know if your viable solution worked or not. I'll get better odds in Vegas.

I've never said anything about married couples - if they want to use a condom, that is between them. For the record, I've been talking about extramarital sex and the promotion of condom use therein.

No, I don't say, "carry on then." I plead with their lives to repent and believe just as Jesus and the apostles would have.

And actually, I know you will find this laughable (since you seem to think humans are just animals with an uncontrollable desire for sex), but if I were a young Christian man in Africa, I would seriously consider a life of celibacy, unless I could find a Christian wife who had not been promiscuous. Actually, that is the calling for all Christians, whether in Africa or elsewhere. There is more to life than sex, as you seem to expect people are going to mate like dogs no matter what.

 

I was thinking of this. . . If someone is in need of help, then we ought to give them useful help.

James 2:15-16

In the same way, we can preach the Gospel to these people, but if we do nothing to help them with their physical needs, we give them little reason to believe us.

 

You seem to expect the unsaved to be without corrupt natures!

Added: Oh, and here is the evidence of the efficacy of encouraging people who will not be monogamous to use condoms.

 

You heard it here first on Baptist Board - James would have promoted condom use.

This is ridiculous. I've got to stop this discussion. I'm not going to convince you and you aren't going to convince me, so let's circle back at judgment day.

 

Of course! If I thought he would rightfully object in this case, I would be opposed as well.

I'll see you then.