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Amy.G said:You learned all that as an atheist and yet didn't learn that you were a sinner in need of a Savior?![]()
Pastor Trent said:I think you have missed the point. He seems to be asking what did your Pastor (assuming his involvement) ask you when you personally passed from darkness to light.
It wasn't my pastor, it was my mother and she asked me if I wanted to accept the gift of forgiveness for my sin. This was after she explained to me what Jesus had accomplished through the cross and His resurrection.
I said "yes".
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But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly,
his faith is accounted for righteousness. -Romans 4:5
pinoybaptist said:In my case in 1973 I was a professed atheist who wanted to get a New Testament the church I went into was offering those who would come forward to accept Christ as Savior.
It was the New Testament I wanted and just went along with the Roman Road ride, and the Sinner's Prayer.
As soon as the pastor was told I had been "born again", he gave me the New Testament, and I was out of there in a flash.
I read and reread that New Testament three times from that Sunday to the next Saturday.
During that time I understood in my heart the following:
Your poll assumes that everyone has a uniform experience.
- I was a child of God, and had always been his sheep;
- If Jesus came that moment I would meet him in the air;
- That if I loved Him, then I would follow Him in the waters of baptism which I did within the month;
- That Jesus Christ is God and Man, sinless, perfect, holy, gracious and kind, and that He is Lord whether I accept that or not.
Didn't vote.
ReformedBaptist said:Therefore brethren, salvation is by Grace Alone, through Faith Alone, in Christ Alone, to the glory of God ALONE.
Halleujah.
lbaker said:You forgot to include "for the Elect alone..."
(2Pe 3:9) The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.1. That our calling and election are inextricably linked. Those whom God has chosen He has called. And God DOES NOT savingly call every man.
Romans 4:1-5 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? (2) For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. (3) For what saith the Scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. (4) Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. (5) But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.2. That God has done this for His glory alone, that no flesh will glory in His presense.
Isa 41:8 But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.3. That we are in Christ OF HIM, and not OF US.
Therefore brethren, salvation is by Grace Alone, through Faith Alone, in Christ Alone, to the glory of God ALONE.
Halleujah.
I hope you know me better than that by now. :saint: I just didn't understand your statements about salvation because you didn't mention any desire for God's mercy or recognition that you were a sinner. Not accusing you of anything.pinoybaptist said:Learning you're a sinner that was in need of a Savior goes without saying once the Lord opens up Scriptures to you.
My atheism flew out the moment I desired that New Testament to read about the Christ preached by that Godly preacher
Learning that a Savior has been provided and who indeed saved you motivates obedience when one is truly born again.
I hope you are not implying that I have been lying and spinning up tall tales, Amy.G.
If you are, call me up on that regard.
Amy.G said:I hope you know me better than that by now. :saint: I just didn't understand your statements about salvation because you didn't mention any desire for God's mercy or recognition that you were a sinner. Not accusing you of anything.![]()
Apology accepted. :thumbs: I misunderstood you. My husband was raised as a Catholic too and it did a lot of harm I believe. He was taught that if he was "good" he'd go to heaven. :BangHead:pinoybaptist said:My sincerest apologies then, Amy.G.
Won't happen again.
The desire for mercy and recognition of my terrible state had always been there, even before I turned atheist.
I turned atheist because as a Roman Catholic all I had ever seen were ceremonies that for me were worth nothing, and churches I visited who were supposed to be non-Catholics were just as shallow.
Atheism seemed to be the only answer to not having to be responsible for the sins which had started to weigh heavy on me, and Marxism the only solution for the societal ills of my country, and when that preacher spoke on sin and hell and Christ and redemption everything seemed to click in place and all I wanted was to read that NT myself, and lapped it up like a dry sponge.