Originally posted by QuickeningSpirit:
But then I would have to question Linam's comprehension of the passages to know whether her bias is unbiased.
Had it been, she surely would not have been able to publish her dissertation. Having been a doctoral student myself, I can tell you that these things are carefully weeded out.
I would believe Linam's motive wasn't to make an unbiased analogy, but to try to implicate the KJB as less understood to the applause of the mv crowd.
It was a basic study, and was shown to be statistically significant. The study was valid, replicable, and quite clear in its implications. It's funny how the only argument against it is a call of bias without any proof whatsoever.
My favorite part of the study shows that 100 percent of the non-Christian students were unable to answer 44% of the questions, which were quite simple. This brings our mission as Christians into stark focus. How can we reach the children of the world for Christ using a tool that 100% can't comprehend?
The questions were simple:
"Who was the story about? How did the story begin? What were the men trying to do in the story? What did the men do to try to solve their problems?"
and here is the passage in question:
2 Kings 7
3 And there were four leprous men at the entering in of the gate: and they said one to another, Why sit we here until we die?
4 If we say, We will enter into the city, then the famine is in the city, and we shall die there: and if we sit still here, we die also. Now therefore come, and let us fall unto the host of the Syrians: if they save us alive, we shall live; and if they kill us, we shall but die.
5 And they rose up in the twilight, to go unto the camp of the Syrians: and when they were come to the uttermost part of the camp of Syria, behold, there was no man there.
6 For the LORD had made the host of the Syrians to hear a noise of chariots, and a noise of horses, even the noise of a great host: and they said one to another, Lo, the king of Israel hath hired against us the kings of the Hittites, and the kings of the Egyptians, to come upon us.
7 Wherefore they arose and fled in the twilight, and left their tents, and their horses, and their asses, even the camp as it was, and fled for their life.
8 And when these lepers came to the uttermost part of the camp, they went into one tent, and did eat and drink, and carried thence silver, and gold, and raiment, and went and hid it; and came again, and entered into another tent, and carried thence also, and went and hid it.
9 Then they said one to another, We do not well: this day is a day of good tidings, and we hold our peace: if we tarry till the morning light, some mischief will come upon us: now therefore come, that we may go and tell the king's household.
And here's the more understood version:
3 Now there were four men with leprosy [1] at the entrance of the city gate. They said to each other, "Why stay here until we die? 4 If we say, 'We'll go into the city'-the famine is there, and we will die. And if we stay here, we will die. So let's go over to the camp of the Arameans and surrender. If they spare us, we live; if they kill us, then we die."
5 At dusk they got up and went to the camp of the Arameans. When they reached the edge of the camp, not a man was there, 6 for the Lord had caused the Arameans to hear the sound of chariots and horses and a great army, so that they said to one another, "Look, the king of Israel has hired the Hittite and Egyptian kings to attack us!" 7 So they got up and fled in the dusk and abandoned their tents and their horses and donkeys. They left the camp as it was and ran for their lives.
8 The men who had leprosy reached the edge of the camp and entered one of the tents. They ate and drank, and carried away silver, gold and clothes, and went off and hid them. They returned and entered another tent and took some things from it and hid them also.
9 Then they said to each other, "We're not doing right. This is a day of good news and we are keeping it to ourselves. If we wait until daylight, punishment will overtake us. Let's go at once and report this to the royal palace."
Not a single bit of meaning has changed, but the understanding is much greater. So the question is, Why not the MV? If we care about the outside world, and I believe we should, then should we not yearn for a translation in which the children and students of the world can understand?
Now I have told you all my stand on the KJB, I am NOT KJVO, but I have considered the mv's at times, but to no avail due to the lack of my ability to comprehend the way they read. Now some are close, but HankD, "no cigar".
Just give me that old time religion, it's good enough for me!
Then keep it to yourself and leave those who have seen God work through modern versions alone.