Acts 13:48 My Favorite Verse in the Bible

[GordonSlocum]

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. Or - did He love you before He choose you out of a people of rebellion?

2 (a) If so, (which I doubt but you never know) Why did He love you when you hated Him and chose to live apart from Him

(1) I will just take God at His word. “God so loved the world” (all the people)

(2) I don’t have two wax philosophical to come to that conclusion

(3) When did He love the world, Always, from eternity

 

[GordonSlocum]

3. Or - Did God choose you because He had a purpose in choosing you and therefore loved you?

To posit the idea that God actually hates can not be. I know the word hate is used is several places, but words like “hate” in the context of How God is can not be - "real hate" is sin. Justice is not hate. God is just, God is love. The term would be used as an emphasis not as an actual reality.

If we define Hate and what it is first then accuse God of hate we know very fast that God can not sin.

God did not turn on his love - it is. When is says “For God so loved the world that He have His only son” clearly answers the question. Love = purpose

If it did not the verse would read

For God so purposed the world that He gave His only Son.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son

Why we would even consider a philosophical approach to answering it when it is given us in this clear straight forward statement.

 

[Jarthur001]

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(1) I will just take God at His word. “God so loved the world” (all the people)

(2) I don’t have two wax philosophical to come to that conclusion

(3) When did He love the world, Always, from eternity

Hello Gordon,

Lets see....

1...are you going to take Gods Word or not? You can't have it both ways...Gods Word and your word.

2..it seems maybe you do have philosophical holdings that you bring to the table.

3.. I agree with this...but it does not line up with 1.

 

[Brother Bob]

God says He loves the world and some say "no He don't either". search me?

 

[Jarthur001]

Hello Gordon,

To posit the idea that God actually hates can not be. I know the word hate is used is several places, but words like “hate” in the context of How God is can not be - "real hate" is sin. Justice is not hate. God is just, God is love. The term would be used as an emphasis not as an actual reality.

Why would you say this? Do you feel that God does not have hate in His nature? Is God only a God of love?

If we define Hate and what it is first then accuse God of hate we know very fast that God can not sin.

This is a poor understanding of sin. God cannot sin

God did not turn on his love - it is. When is says “For God so loved the world that He have His only son” clearly answers the question. Love = purpose


If it did not the verse would read

For God so purposed the world that He gave His only Son.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son

Why we would even consider a philosophical approach to answering it when it is given us in this clear straight forward statement.

It is clear, if you take in account the whole Bible and drop your philosophical approach view of one verse. BTW...there are more verses in the Bible.



In Christ...James

 

[Jarthur001]

God says He loves the world and some say "no He don't either". search me?

Indeed..God say He loved the world.

Now what does this mean?

 

[Brother Bob]

What it says. God loved His whole creation. "31: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
"
Now Jesus already stood as a slain Lamb when God said this.

 

[Jarthur001]

What it says. God loved His whole creation. "31: And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
"
Now Jesus already stood as a slain Lamb when God said this.

Indeed....an then what happened?

 

[Brother Bob]

Sin, God hates sin and not the sinner. Now you are going to quote to me "Esau". Well, He had sold his very birthright.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


1 Timothy 2:3-6 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

2Cr 5:15 And [that] he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

 

[Jarthur001]

Sin, God hates sin and not the sinner. Now you are going to quote to me "Esau". Well, He had sold his very birthright.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.


1 Timothy 2:3-6 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

2Cr 5:15 And [that] he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

So, in other words, God does hate in His nature? He hates sin...now is there anything else God hates?

oops...I forgot..."Esau"

 

[Brother Bob]

He hates the deeds of the Nicholadens. If I spelled it right

1 Timothy 2:3-6 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

2Cr 5:15 And [that] he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

 

[Jarthur001]

He hates the deeds of the Nicholadens. If I spelled it right

1 Timothy 2:3-6 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.

2Cr 5:15 And [that] he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again.

Indeed...and what else?

You are not a God who takes pleasure in evil; with you the wicked cannot dwell. The arrogant cannot stand in your presence; you hate all who do wrong.​

 

[Brother Bob]

you hate all who do wrong. (where can I find this?)

Must have got you too. So, He hates the very "elect"?

Mat 5:44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;


Surely He wouldn't tell us to love our enemies and He would hate them?

 

[Jarthur001]

5 Into your hands I commit my spirit;
redeem me, O LORD, the God of truth.

6 I hate those who cling to worthless idols;
I trust in the LORD

 

[Jarthur001]

you hate all who do wrong.

Must have got you too. So, He hates the very "elect"?

Let me post again, ...tis the Bible you know.

You are not a God who takes pleasure in evil; with you the wicked cannot dwell. The arrogant cannot stand in your presence; you hate all who do wrong

 

[Jarthur001]

But about the Son he says,
"Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever,
and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.
You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness;
therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions
by anointing you with the oil of joy."

 

[Brother Bob]

Book, Chapter and verse?

I can't find it.

 

[Jarthur001]

14 I will take vengeance on Edom by the hand of my people Israel, and they will deal with Edom in accordance with my anger and my wrath; they will know my vengeance, declares the Sovereign LORD.' "

 

[Brother Bob]

You are quoting David and saying its the Lord.

14 I will take vengeance on Edom by the hand of my people Israel, and they will deal with Edom in accordance with my anger and my wrath; they will know my vengeance, declares the Sovereign LORD.' "

He will do that to all the unbelievers.

Why you using the words of David and claiming they are the Lord's words.

 

[Jarthur001]

It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.