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Iconoclast

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If a person is going to give the message of salvation, it should be in alignment with what Jesus actually taught, not what a preacher wants Jesus to have taught.
The message I listened to was inaccurate in regard to salvation.

Being a good orator who can convince people does not make a person theologically accurate.

Your preacher was easy on the ears. I grant you that.
People generally speak well of him on several topics.
He did not have light on Roman's 8 or 9 however.
 

HankD

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ah yes once more, the gospel according to john calvin again found in the Institutes of the Christian Religion.
 

Reynolds

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ah yes once more, the gospel according to john calvin again found in the Institutes of the Christian Religion.
Its sad really. People who probably in their entire life have not won the people to Christ that Adrian did on one of his worst Sundays call him a false teacher.
 

Yeshua1

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Thanks for the links. He's certainly easy to listen to as an orator.

I listened to the sermon Love Worth Finding. His teaching that all can choose Jesus is theologically incorrect as expressed by Jesus in John 6, John 10 and John 17 so in that light he made false statements. His motives seem good so I wouldn't quibble with him on many things. His understanding of God's Sovereignty in choosing sinners to respond in belief and repentance is where I would have disagreed.

Thank you for the links.
He was classic arminian! But still used by the Lord as one to reach His own and train them up in the faith!
 

Yeshua1

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Its sad really. People who probably in their entire life have not won the people to Christ that Adrian did on one of his worst Sundays call him a false teacher.
Not false teacher as in not saved, but he misunderstand sotierology, but still used by God to reach and train up His own!
 

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ah yes once more, the gospel according to john calvin again found in the Institutes of the ddChristian Religion.
The good news did not explain salvation to called to service.
The good news does not need slick talking around, but rather exegesis of the text.
People do not get deceived into the Kingdom.
 
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Particular

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ah yes once more, the gospel according to john calvin again found in the Institutes of the Christian Religion.
Its sad really. People who probably in their entire life have not won the people to Christ that Adrian did on one of his worst Sundays call him a false teacher.
They need our prayers
It is sad when you three ignore the gospel of Jesus and then twist it to be only something John Calvin imagined in his mind. Verse after verse, passage after passage speaks of God's glorious grace being given to whom God wills, yet you cannot accept it and instead think Calvin made it up, that it doesn't exist in God's word.
All three of you, man up and read your Bible. Tell us that Jesus did not say what he said and that his Apostles did not write what they wrote. So far, you cling to about 10 sentences to create your soteriological position and then you ignore the passages that prove your position inaccurate.
Will you do that? Will you stick with scripture? Doubtful. It's much more lazy to just say "Calvinism" and walk away thinking your comments are justified.
Be men. Do your due diligence in scouring God's word. It would do you well to read the whole of scripture and accept the blessed Sovereignty of God in all things, including your own salvation.
 

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The good news did not explain salvation to called to service.
The good news does not need slick talking around, but rather exegesis of the text.
People do not get deceived into the Kingdom.
Here on bb however that is applauded.
You are disappointing icon.
 

Yeshua1

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The good news did not explain salvation to called to service.
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People do not get deceived into the Kingdom.
Here on bb however that is applauded.
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The good news did not explain salvation to called to service.
The good news does not need slick talking around, but rather exegesis of the text.
People do not get deceived into the Kingdom.
Here on bb however that is applauded.
God still uses non Calvinist to give forth the Gospel message, and to train up and mature the redeemed!
 

HankD

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for me as long as the scripture says WHOSOEVER WILL allows the evangelist to say "anybody can believe in Christ"

I used the concept quite effectively years ago went I was active in evangelism myself.
 

Yeshua1

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for me as long as the scripture says WHOSOEVER WILL allows the evangelist to say "anybody can believe in Christ"

I used the concept quite effectively years ago went I was active in evangelism myself.
Yes, as the one who will be able to do that would be the One elected by God, so can be used well!
 

HankD

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, yet you cannot accept it and instead think Calvin made it up, that it doesn't exist in God's word.
All three of you, man up and read your Bible. Tell us that Jesus did not say what he said and that his Apostles did not write what they wrote.

you disobey the scripture and probably grieve the Spirit of Gob by following Calvin OR THE TEACHING OF ANY MAN NOT INSPIRED OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

1 Corinthians 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.

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1 Corinthians 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Calvin; and I of Arminius; and I of Billy Graham; and I of Christ.

13 Is Christ divided? was CALVIN crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of CALVIN?
 

Yeshua1

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It is sad when you three ignore the gospel of Jesus and then twist it to be only something John Calvin imagined in his mind. Verse after verse, passage after passage speaks of God's glorious grace being given to whom God wills, yet you cannot accept it and instead think Calvin made it up, that it doesn't exist in God's word.
All three of you, man up and read your Bible. Tell us that Jesus did not say what he said and that his Apostles did not write what they wrote. So far, you cling to about 10 sentences to create your soteriological position and then you ignore the passages that prove your position inaccurate.
Will you do that? Will you stick with scripture? Doubtful. It's much more lazy to just say "Calvinism" and walk away thinking your comments are justified.
Be men. Do your due diligence in scouring God's word. It would do you well to read the whole of scripture and what is called particular Baptist theology right to Romand and accept the blessed Sovereignty of God in all things, including your own salvation.
We can trace the beginnings of particular Baptist theology right back into Gospel of John and Romans themselves!
Calvin and other reformers rediscovered that, but did not originate that theology!
 

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As far as I'm concerned once you attach the NAME OF A MORTAL MAN (e.g. calvin) to salvation YOU HAVE CORRUPTED THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

If I were a charismatic I would shout HALLELUJAH, GLORY BE TO GOD! for that verse
BUT SINCE I'M A BAPTIST AN amen! will have to do
 

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Our history (Christian, not necessarily Calvinism) is replete with examples of God using faithful, spirit-filled men to reach multitudes for His Kingdom.

The list includes Calvinists like Whitfield (even though he advocated slavery), Wesley (even though he was not Baptist), D.L.Moody (even though he rejected Calvinism), Billy Graham (even though he focused on the gospel apart from denominational divides), Adrian Rodgers, ect.

I am tired of hearing the foolishness that boarders on proclaiming Calvinism as the way, truth, and life.

As Christians we need to realize that the “heroes of the faith”, men who have labored faithfully, men who were used greatly by God, are no less because they held understandings of Scripture differently.

Argue doctrine, but do not become an enemy of God by striving against God’s people and slandering other Christians.
 

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you disobey the scripture and probably grieve the Spirit of Gob by following Calvin OR THE TEACHING OF ANY MAN NOT INSPIRED OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.

1 Corinthians 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of Apollos; and I of Cephas; and I of Christ.

21 century revision
1 Corinthians 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Calvin; and I of Arminius; and I of Billy Graham; and I of Christ.

13 Is Christ divided? was CALVIN crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of CALVIN?
So you introduce the name of Calvin then criticize people for talking about him but you suggest Adrian Rogers is okay is that right?
 
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