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Adrian Rogers Shows Calvinism to Be FALSE

SavedByGrace

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You are doing the exact same thing that Van did with you.He was not going to listen to you as he called you a Calvinist.lol

funny that. One of my very close Christian friends for almost 40 years, is a very strong 5 point Calvinist! We met at Westminster Chapel in London, when Dr R T Kendall was pastor, where Martin Lloyd-Jones used to preach. I was asked a few times if I were "Reformed" in my theology!!! :D
 

SavedByGrace

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You can put your head in the sand and go with that, but I think you are slowly coming to these truths. You are part way there.
he clearly shows Adrian Rogers error within the first 16 minutes, and it continues from there.

error to one person, is truth to another! Like you and me! :Biggrin
 

Iconoclast

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funny that. One of my very close Christian friends for almost 40 years, is a very strong 5 point Calvinist! We met at Westminster Chapel in London, when Dr R T Kendall was pastor, where Martin Lloyd-Jones used to preach. I was asked a few times if I were "Reformed" in my theology!!! :D
I find you are strongly right on some things, and strongly wrong on other things.
It is an odd mix, but the Lord might be giving you some clarity.
 

SavedByGrace

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You cannot comment until you listen.

just finished JW video clip. there is ZILCH that he says, even from the Greek, where he is trying to be clever, that says that KOSMOS does not mean the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE. Interesting that he did not comment on the use of "μὴ ἀπόληται" here, which in the subjunctive mood! "MIGHT not perish", and not "WILL not"!

Notice he mentions Dr Bill Mounce, who JW struggles with in his grammar!

This video is a JOKE, as there is a LOT of WAFFLING by White, and he does not look all too certain what the verse actually does say in the Greek.

I have no doubt that I could debate JW on the Greek grammar, as he is clearly out of his depth here!
 

Iconoclast

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just finished JW video clip. there is ZILCH that he says, even from the Greek, where he is trying to be clever, that says that KOSMOS does not mean the ENTIRE HUMAN RACE. Interesting that he did not comment on the use of "μὴ ἀπόληται" here, which in the subjunctive mood! "MIGHT not perish", and not "WILL not"!

Notice he mentions Dr Bill Mounce, who JW struggles with in his grammar!

This video is a JOKE, as there is a LOT of WAFFLING by White, and he does not look all too certain what the verse actually does say in the Greek.

I have no doubt that I could debate JW on the Greek grammar, as he is clearly out of his depth here!
Call the dividing line and do it live on the air, so you can help everyone out!
 

SavedByGrace

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Call the dividing line and do it live on the air, so you can help everyone out!

I never said that!

You posted the video and asked me to listen to what James White says on the Greek of John 3.16.

I listened to it and can clearly see that he is wrong in his understanding of the grammar. Even Dr Mounce disagrees with him

As I said I have no problem with debating JW on Greek of the entire passage
 

Marooncat79

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I can assure you that I have not always been a Calvinist.

why?

because I listened to others build straw men and use terms unbiblically
 
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