Who says whites will be discriminated against, and who says there will be favoring, ...On the contrary, if your affluence and position in society is based upon past discrimination and exploitation, you are in possession of stolen goods, and though the blood may be old, it's still there.</font>[/QUOTE] Nope. If government force or influence favors one group over another then discrimination has occurred. Past wrongs are not righted by penalizing people who had nothing to do with them.
I have stolen nothing nor am I in possession of anything stolen.
Nope. I look at reality and what is biblically right.
I grew up in southern appalachia with no more advantage than most of the blacks you claim are systematically disenfranchised. My dad was the 8th child of a tobacco farmer. My mom was the 8th child of subsistance mtn farmers. Both were the first in their families to graduate high school. My dad spent 21 years in the army.
I didn't qualify for college aid. Even 20 years ago, there were many of us who didn't but couldn't afford college outright. My parents and I were devoted to my education so I was funded by their money, loans, scholarships, and my ROTC stipend. The bottom line is that we did what was necessary... that same opportunity exists for virtually every American today.
That you so greatly struggle with a simple moral equation is a marvel of liberal indoctrination.
When someone would rather makes excuses rather than doggedly pursue the opportunities available to them... even if they have to work harder than others... they are to blame.
Why? Why is it a shame to recognize reality? My ancestors' suffering contributed to where I am and I suspect that your situation is the same. I never said that black slave sufferings were just or justifiable... only that blacks living today have benefited due to them.
Keep in mind that success is not determined by where someone starts but by the goal they refuse to fall short of.
Successful people possess discipline, determination, perseverence, etc. When they fall down... or are pushed down... they get up, learn their lesson, and try again.
Failures accept hopelessness and use it as an excuse.
I will let you come to my house and show me what was stolen... if you can prove it I will gladly give it back.
What? Informing you of your social responsibility as God has called me to do? No sir, I will not.</font>[/QUOTE] You are no prophet... show me the scripture that supports your belief in government activism.
This country has more opportunities for upward mobility than any other on earth. The wealthiest group of black people in the world reside in the United States and are direct beneficiaries of the system you claim so badly treats them.
You might want to spice that demagogury with some proof.
Your accusation is based on your conjectures of people who are very different from yourself would do if confronted with a hypothetical situation that isn't even likely... dishonest tactic.
Show me. In fact, I can show you where He said that it was the right of an employer to pay an employee as he saw fit... while using the employer as a representative of God Himself.
Are you saying it is immoral for a rich person to ask a poor person to work for certain benefits... while it is moral for government to use force to take more wealth from the rich man, pay bureaucratic costs, and give the same poor person the same benefits for doing nothing?
The Bible says that if a man won't work, he shouldn't eat.
BTW, Christ never... never espoused enabling fornication, illegitimacy, slothfulness, or any other sinful behavior with charitable giving.
Your type of action related to social responsibility and justice have worked to destroy the moral fabric of inner-city blacks.
His message was go and sin no more. Big government's only admonition is do whatever you want, we'll give you more as long as you ensure that liberals are elected.
Our founders wisely established rules in the USC that declared our rights as sovereign individuals before God.
Who earns what? That answer is so elementary, so biblically fundamental... yet I am no longer surprised that you ask the question.
The one who earns is the one who "sows". The one who benefits is the one whose sowing God blesses... but God none the less says that we should continue sowing regardless of the outcome. We are responsible to work (or else not eat). God never excuses someone who is able and makes excuses rather than working and striving to succeed.
I do. Growing up in a poor mtn county that routinely has NC's highest rate of unemployment isn't exactly coming from an advantaged position. I worked. God blessed. The same opportunity is available to most of the people you think I should be penalized to benefit.
Additionally, the millions of blacks who have succeeded out of the very same environments that others fail in. People who did not accept closed doors, who would not submit to defeatism, who determined that they would work 10 times as hard to overcome whatever racism they faced rather than giving in to it... that's who.
No one. But successful people aren't people who have never been knocked down. They are people who refuse to stay down no matter how many times they find themselves on their backs.
It is a moral character issue. One has a choice of being longsuffering and patient or else of making excuses.
Why do you assume that because I oppose your philosophy of government on the specific basis that I think it steals glory from God, I am less generous or caring toward people than you?
