Al Mohler on aborted cells vaccine

[church mouse guy]

It seems that Mohler is more or less saying government knows best and there is nothing wrong with a vaccine manufactured from research from aborted stem cells.

I am beginning to think Mohler is a pure sophist. I’m praying that he leaves the SBC.

Mohler’s statement on 12/14/20:

Monday, December 14, 2020

 

[JonC]

I've learned that there is nothing to be gained from praying people leave the SBC. Perhaps a better prayer would be that the SBC leaves certain men.

 

[Van]

I think the biblical principle is to take the "fruit of the poison tree" vaccine if you believe God has blessed the effort to save lives, and take some other vaccine if not. I see no need to vilify those on either side.

 

[rlvaughn]

Information gathered by the Charlotte Lozier Institute about use or not of abortion-derived cells in development and production of Covid vaccines.
COVID-19 Vaccine Candidates and Abortion-Derived Cell Lines

 

[SGO]

How about a simple yes or no answer to this question:

Are they using cells from aborted fetuses in the vaccines?

From Mohler's own statement:

"The fact is that many of these do go back to tissue taken from aborted fetuses, and there is some involvement, in most of the major COVID-19 vaccines, in the use of these fetal cell lines. "

A rationale to continue abortion.

They can't fight back and we don't have a relationship with them so it's ok to use them to keep the "living" alive?

Any one who is OK with that and Christian should study "womb" in the bible to begin with.

Here is one passage:

And Mary arose in those days,
and went into the hill country with haste,
into a city of Judah;
And entered into the house of Zacharias,
and saluted Elizabeth.
And it came to pass, that,
when Elizabeth hears the salutation of Mary,
the babe leaped in her womb;
and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Ghost.
And she spake out with a loud voice, and said,
Blessed art thou among women,
and blessed is the fruit of thy womb,
And whence is this to me,
that the mother of my Lord should come to me?
For, lo,
as soon as the voice of thy salutation sounded in mine ears,
the babe leaped in my womb for joy.
Luke 1:39-440

 

[SGO]

This is very hard to believe and I do not know of a reliable source:

Summary

• • No COVID-19 vaccine contains cells from aborted fetuses.
  • A replica cell line from a fetus aborted in 1973 was used to develop the AstraZeneca/Oxford University vaccine. However, the vaccine itself does not contain fetal cells.
  • New mRNA vaccines, such as those being developed by Pfizer and Moderna, are synthetic vaccines, sequenced on a computer in a lab, and do not use fetal cell lines in their production.
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  • COVID-19 vaccines and aborted fetuses

 

[rlvaughn]

A replica cell line from a fetus aborted in 1973 was used to develop the AstraZeneca/Oxford University vaccine. However, the vaccine itself does not contain fetal cells.

According to the Lozier Foundation, AstraZeneca/University of Oxford used some abortion-derived cell lines in Confirmatory Lab Tests, Design & Development, and Production.

New mRNA vaccines, such as those being developed by Pfizer and Moderna, are synthetic vaccines, sequenced on a computer in a lab, and do not use fetal cell lines in their production.

Also according to the Lozier Foundation, Moderna, Inc./National Institutes of Health and Pfizer/BioNTech used some abortion-derived cell lines in some Confirmatory Lab Tests, but not in Design & Development or Production.

 

[SGO]

Information gathered by the Charlotte Lozier Institute about use or not of abortion-derived cells in development and production of Covid vaccines.
COVID-19 Vaccine Candidates and Abortion-Derived Cell Lines

I went back to this in reviewing this thread. Had not read it previously before launching into fear.
It is "comforting."
But devious person that I am, decided to check a little further.

Charlotte Lozier Institute - Pro-Lies.org | Extreme. Toxic. Out of Touch.

Lozier Institute - Media Bias Fact Check

The Charlotte Lozier Institute Plots New Strategies in War on Women

Has it's friends too:

Opinion | Better Reporting for Abortions (Published 2013)

A Biased Science Board Threatens Future Fetal Tissue Research

Dr. Charlotte Denman Lozier – Feminists for Life


Information these days takes on its own life.
It, for me, is difficult to determine how to rely on any published information.

Praise God we have the bible and the Holy Spirit.

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. 1 Thessalonians 5:21

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: 1 John 4:1

 

[church mouse guy]

I think the biblical principle is to take the "fruit of the poison tree" vaccine if you believe God has blessed the effort to save lives, and take some other vaccine if not. I see no need to vilify those on either side.

Eggheads are notorious using sophistry to try to fool their readers or listeners. It is disgusting to observe this sophistry in the presumed next president of the SBC. Why doesn’t Congress put in the rotunda a statue of the unknown abortionist for his inestimable contribution to advanced American medical research?

 

[Van]

Eggheads are notorious using sophistry to try to fool their readers or listeners. It is disgusting to observe this sophistry in the presumed next president of the SBC. Why doesn’t Congress put in the rotunda a statue of the unknown abortionist for his inestimable contribution to advanced American medical research?

That would not be consistent with scripture.

 

[church mouse guy]

That would not be consistent with scripture.

Mark Twain, as you know, said that we have the best Congress that money can buy.

 

[Van]

Mark Twain, as you know, said that we have the best Congress that money can buy.

We do not honor the brothers who threw Joseph into the well, because they meant it for evil, but we do honor the good God caused to come from it. On the other hand, some might believe the Egyptians should not have eaten the grain Joseph stored, because it was fruit of the poisonous tree.

 

[church mouse guy]

We do not honor the brothers who threw Joseph into the well, because they meant it for evil, but we do honor the good God caused to come from it. On the other hand, some might believe the Egyptians should not have eaten the grain Joseph stored, because it was fruit of the poisonous tree.

I don’t understand how Egyptian grain was bad as God sent everyone in the world to Egypt for food during the severe drought at the end of the Ice Age roughly 3600 years ago.

In the case of Mohler, he gave his approval to the use of murdered babies in scientific research. Many evangelicals are sick of this sort of political action by the SBC and say that it reminds them of Germany.

 

[SGO]

32 minute video from a Christian ethics group about the separation of aborted cells from the current vaccines:

 

[church mouse guy]

32 minute video from a Christian ethics group about the separation of aborted cells from the current vaccines:

It is a private decision. I myself do not take flu shots. I actually think that the shots should be given to minorities first in order to silence their protests.

 

[church mouse guy]

32 minute video from a Christian ethics group about the separation of aborted cells from the current vaccines:

Finally found the time to look at this video. Moore just reiterated what we already knew about the aborted research line. They argued that Jesus healed and this vaccine works so therefore we should use it to heal. Dr. Collins suggested cloth and paper masks work, which is not scientific. In my workplace there are a lot of low-class white Democrats and they are the ones who ignore the suggestions about 6 feet, cheap masks, and using soap and water. I think that Moore needs to encourage white Dems to get the vaccine as soon as possible, including himself.

I guess that no one except conservatives have the courage to tell Gates to shut up. Gates crippled, sterilized, and even killed some people in the third world on his eugenics experiments with vaccines. Moore probably hasn’t heard that.

I am praying that white Democrats like Dr. Collins and Dr. Moore do not try to use government force to compel every person to take this vaccine. Biden has said that he wants Congress to force people to wear masks until at least May 1. Can you imagine what the SBC would be like under Mohler with Biden and Collins pushing for force and Moore also cheering for force?

 

[SGO]

Would you mind providing some links about Gates' "eugenics experiments" please?



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[church mouse guy]

Would you mind providing some links about Gates' "eugenics experiments" please?



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[SGO]

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