Al-Qaida voice in Washington, D.C.

And will all be moot once martial law is declared after the next big terrorist attacks which will probably be in multiple cities. Poncho, I know that you know the Executive Orders have been put in place for several decades and you know they kick in under Martial Law. </font>[/QUOTE]LadyEagle, please come to your senses, we're already under martial law have been for some time. New Orleans was used for practice and conditioning. 80 million people own guns in this country legally, God only knows how many illegal, these will have to be confiscated before the globalists feel brave enough to drop the hammer on the USA.

Most likely Hillary will be the one to move against the people's arsenal, I could be wrong as I often am, but that's the way I see it lining up.

They've been training for martial law and setting up the police state to implement it for years as you well know. But I do believe our guns throw a scare into em. I'm not willing to roll over for the NWO that easily. But that just me, a dumb glazier what do I know? Then again I could be wrong, wouldn't be the first time and I don't have a crystal ball or would use one if I did, being a glazier makes such things easy to attain too.

 

No, we are not already under martial law. You are still free to come and go at any hour of the day or night. You still have habeas corpus rights. I do agree that NOLA was a trial run.

Now back on topic, I am assuming that the majority here have no problem with Al-Jazeera. I do. They are an enemy of the state and should be dealt with accordingly. But our Government is afraid, not of you poncho, or of me, but they are afraid of the Muslim world and they are afraid of CAIR.

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Turn and rend you, is what I said. This is what they are doing while we cast our pearls of freedom and our Constitutional rights before the swine. Some day we will pay a heavy price, and we may pay for it with beheadings of ourselves and all those we love when the jihad in the USA begins. Things are shaping up for it, sooner than we might even think.

 

That's quite fine, rsr. Just remember these posts some day when you look back and pine for the good old days. You won't even be able to go back and re-read these posts, because none of us will have internet access anymore. That is, if the post-tribbers are right.

 

Okay, you got me on that one. We still have habeas corpus, not that they didn't take a swing at that and try for dear life to wrest it from us. At this point I don't even think it's final, Ali Saleh Kahlah al-Marri?

The machinery is there and has been tested. The people saw the logic of their leaders and are okay with it. Now I am getting nervous.

 

Your brand of situational ethics is fraught with destruction. You seem to have the view that the constitution protects free speech even to the inclusion of yelling fire in the movie theater, or allowing the broadcast of anti-American propaganda designed to facilitate the overthrow of the government. I would gladly trade some of what you perceive as personal rights in order to preserve the nations security. The alternative is to allow terrorism to continue unabated. "Tread carefully" is what the govt. is doing in politically correctly not observing race and ethnicity in it's anti-terrorism efforts.

I wonder if maybe your stance is because you want to help God get us into the last days, to hurry the rapture. Wait, you don't believe in that, so that can't be it.

When the govt. goes after Limbaugh and Hannity, it'll be addressed then. The govt. is sure not going after the radical leftists in the Dem. Party that are aiding and abetting the terrorists on a daily basis now.

 

Yes, we should tread very carefully, but you seem like you don't want to tread at all. These people aren't pie in the sky that we will win with our love, kumbayah, as you seem to hint at repeatedly on various threads, whether it be discussing interrogation techniques, their "freedom" to broadcast propaganda from our shores, or whatever. Every time we extend them unlimited use of our own Constitution against us within our own borders, they gain a stronghold.

But never fear, your mindset seems to be running the gambit through the halls of Congress and the politically correct media - all to the glee of our enemies.

No doubt we will all one day look back in amazement that some were so unconcerned about the threat to our national security some of us posted naive posts on discussion boards.

Unless people wake up to the fact that our enemy is real, is engaged in many fronts against us even within our own borders, we may win some battles, but we will not ultimately win the war. </font>[/QUOTE]Wow LE, that's a great post.

 

Indeed they are our enemies, they just aren't who you think they are.

They sure have declared war, on God, on our republic, on our constitution our way of life. America is to be melded into the one world government. Do you really think that would happen if there wasn't "a perceived outside threat" as Kissenger would call it to scare us into questioning our own constitution, giving up our rights, to relinquish our independence as a nation and take refuge in some utopian bureaucracy made up of unelected officials that will control every facet of our lives from abroad?

Do you forget how evil and deceptive Christ's enemies are? Do you forget who His enemy is? Islam isn't Christ's enemy, it's a false religion and may be viewed as our enemy but behind every false religion is one entity contolling it all. And it ain't Osama or Al Zarqawi. The one world government is being built, there is only way to get America to agree to be part of that and that is through manipulation and force, not by the radical muslims they are being manipulated and appear to be the "perceived threat" that Kissenger, Brzezinski, Goering, Hitler, Caesar and others have talked of and used to bring divisions and war to their people.

Problem Reaction Solution.

 

And when has al-Jazeera done this? </font>[/QUOTE]I don't know that they have and am not accusing them of having done so. My only point is that terrorists or anyone who would make war on this country ought not to be granted freedom of the press.

Mark Osgatharp

 

poncho, I agree with you on many things, but to deny that we have been under attack by islamofascists is over the top.

They bombed us in Lebanon and killed our marines. They blew a hole in the USS Cole. They attacked the WTC in 1993. Then they did it again in 2001. They have attacked our embassies (and other embassies) and interests (and other nation's interests) around the globe. They have slaughtered millions of innocent people throughout countries in Africa, including Sierra Leone, Sudan, Ivory Coast, Somalia, and more. To deny we are under attack by these people is absurd.

Granted, we are in the throes of a one-world government and granted the rich and powerful, "christian" and islamists are in bed together with various international business deals and world leaders, including those at the UN, and they are corrupt and we are headed towards the One World Government, but to deny we have been under attack is not reality. Especially when OBL, al-Qaeda, Zarqawi and others have been perfectly up front with how they seek to destroy us and it has been broadcast, not only throughout the muslim/arab world, but the world over. Yes, islam is the enemy, but it is only one of several enemies. And all enemies of freedom loving people and Christians everywhere are ruled by the satan and his minions of rebellion against God and against all things good and righteous.

 

When have I ever denied that we are under attack LadyEagle? I have no doubt that there are plenty of terrorists out there both muslim and otherwise that have attacked us and plan to do it again. OBL and Al Zarqawi are most probably working for the various intell agencies like so many others that have been found to have connections to them when captured, Al-Qaeda?? When did they go from being a CIA database and disbanded disgruntled group to the world's premier elite omni present terrorist group with two evil murderers behind every door in America, England, Spain and other countries? Let me answer that question. Right when the globalists needed that "perceived outside threat" to kick off their dream of American imperial mobilzation they wrote and spoke so passionately in favor of so often before 9/11.

There are hundreds of terrorist groups all over the world, to blame each and every terrorist attack in the world on some super all powerful Al-Qaeda is what is really absurd, and that on the word of some ghostly shadow on a "terrorist website".

There is I dare say more solid evidence connecting MI5, ISI, CIA, and the Mossad to these headline bombings than Al-Qaeda. Unless you are willing to take the word of this almost completely corrupt globalist government over the evidence that is.

 

Pncho said:

Huh ? I don't see the president churning out Executive Orders as the laws of the land, neither do I see a cowering congress, or stymied oppositions.
I don't see citizens talking in hushed tones, or saying nothing but praise for the government, neither do I see citizens hurrying to get home before 10 in the evening.
Oh, yes, last I looked, at least in our cities here, the PG county police, the Montgomery county police, and the Washington DC police, don't have National Guardsmen in their patrol cars with their M-14's and M-60's, and suspected criminals still have their day in court.
So, where's martial law ?
I lived under it for 15 years in the Philippines, you know, and I am terribly sickened even by the thought of it.

I think you read too many novels, boss.
Chill out.

As for Al-Jazzers or whatever their name is, they ought to be ran out of this country, and if that is being undemocratic, then I'll be glad to be undemocratic, because the Bible I have says to stone homosexuals with stones till they die, and that sure ain't being democratic and tolerant of those who tend to be a corrupting influence in one's society.

Al-Jazeera is a corrupting influence in a country like the United States with a lot of crazies like Mc'Veigh walking around who'd blow up their own countrymen given a good enough reason to do so, or traitors like that guy from the West Coast who'd join up with the enemy and shoot at their own countrymen.

 

McVeigh claimed Ruby Ridge, not al Jazeera, as his motivation. Homicidal maniacs can always find a reason.

 

LadyEagle has already corrected me on the status of martial law.

Huh? What channel have you been tuned too?

Tune into the Conservative Caucus

Have you seen George Bush even mention any of the above EXO's? Ever?

The EXO's below brought FEMA to life. Is FEMA constitutional?&lt;-LINK.

Executive Order 12148

Executive Order 12656

Executive Order 10990

Executive Order 10995

Executive Order 10997

Executive Order 10998

Executive Order 10999

Executive Order 11000

Executive Order 11001

Executive Order 11002

Executive Order 11003

Executive Order 11004

Executive Order 11005

Executive Order 11051

Executive Order 11921

EXECUTIVE ORDER 12919

 

Since this thread has deviated into other subjects and has not stayed on topic, it is now being closed.

LE