Aliens

[4Pillars]

Dear 4Pillars,

Is it your standard method of debating to conveniently leave out the facts that don't agree with your position? Such as Genesis 20:12?.

Dear ccrobinson,

Perhaps, you should read my postings more closely and with open mind then you will conclude that I have already address that same issue that you brought forth. In fact, it is your friends who could not come up with the rebuttal necessary to refute my case.... look

Dear Bob,

Unlike you, I always try to base my faith on what is written in the Scripture -- not's man wild imaginations, like what you have shown us so far. I am sorry, but, I am not so sure why you continue to demonstrate your ignorance of the Scripture.

Again, incest was NEVER part of the mulitiplication process of humanity based on God's rightenousness. His righteousness is the same in the past, present, and future. It is relevant for today, and tomorrow.

I am very much aware that Abraham repeatedly committted what I described to be WHITE LIES, during his travel to Egypt by introducing his wife Sarai as his "sister" because of the fear for his life -- Sarai being a "fair" (beautiful) woman (Genesis 12:11-20).

 

[ccrobinson]

4Pillars,

You can say anything you want to without proof. Any Bible scholars agree with you about the matter of so-called white lies?

 

[DHK]

Unlike them, (opositions) my faith remains in God' rightenousness -- INCEST was never part of God's blessing in the process of multiplication of human kind.
God Bless

Where did Cain get his wife? No incest involved??
What about the Scripture:

Genesis 5:4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters:

Adam and Eve had many sons and daughters. Did you ever wonder why? It was for the propagation of the Adamic race. How do you think that this race started? God allowed what you call "incest" at the very beginning. If he didn't you would not be here spouting off your aberrant theology (if it is worthy to be called theology).

 

[4Pillars]

Dear DHK,

Once again you're mistaken with your assumption - since your understanding of the Scripture is very poor.

Cain married one of the descendants of the sons of God, who originated, in the water, on the 5th Day. Every living Creature that moveth was created abundantly, from the water at this time. Gen 1:21

This, of course agrees with Science, which says that we all originated, in the water.

Noah's grandsons, like Cain, had no other Humans to marry. They married and produced children with the descendants of the sons of God, made on the 5th Day. That's why today's Humans have BOTH Human Intelligence, and the DNA of Prehistoric Beings.

Cain married one of the descendants of the sons of God, on the 1st Earth. Cush married a descendant of the sons of God, on this Planet. Both prehistoic beings originated in the Water, on Day 5. Gen. 1:21

God righteousness is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Therefore, he will not allow INCEST to be part of his blessing in the multiplication process of man -- contrary to your filthy religious view.

 

[Amy.G]

Dear DHK,

Once again you're mistaken with your assumption - since your understanding of the Scripture is very poor.

Cain married one of the descendants of the sons of God, who originated, in the water, on the 5th Day. Every living Creature that moveth was created abundantly, from the water at this time. Gen 1:21

This, of course agrees with Science, which says that we all originated, in the water.

Noah's grandsons, like Cain, had no other Humans to marry. They married and produced children with the descendants of the sons of God, made on the 5th Day. That's why today's Humans have BOTH Human Intelligence, and the DNA of Prehistoric Beings.

Cain married one of the descendants of the sons of God, on the 1st Earth. Cush married a descendant of the sons of God, on this Planet. Both prehistoic beings originated in the Water, on Day 5. Gen. 1:21

God righteousness is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Therefore, he will not allow INCEST to be part of his blessing in the multiplication process of man -- contrary to your filthy religious view.

4pillars, do you have a reading disability? Gen 1:21 describes the sea creatures that God created and the waters abounded with them. Where do you read that any creatures were made from the water? Your interpretation of scripture is really no interpretation at all, only fantasy. How anyone could twist God's word the way you have is beyond me. It's very sad.

 

[4Pillars]

4pillars, do you have a reading disability? Gen 1:21 describes the sea creatures that God created and the waters abounded with them. Where do you read that any creatures were made from the water? Your interpretation of scripture is really no interpretation at all, only fantasy. How anyone could twist God's word the way you have is beyond me. It's very sad.

Dear Amy,

Perhaps, your preconceived notion is blurring your reading comprehension. Let's try again and read slowly...

Genesis 1
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed THEM (pronoun), saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the WATERS in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

If you still think that only water creatures were brought forth abundantly in Genesis 1:21, then you need to get somebody to help you comprehend what you are reading...

 

[Amy.G]

Dear Amy,

Perhaps, your preconceived notion is blurring your reading comprehension. Let's try again and read slowly...

Genesis 1
20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

22 And God blessed THEM (pronoun), saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the WATERS in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth

23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

If you still think that only water creatures were brought forth abundantly in Genesis 1:21, then you need to get somebody to help you comprehend what you are reading...

I have no preconceived notions. I have a Bible and the witness of the Holy Spirit and a good church where I'm discipled weekly. You desparately need the same.
Let's read this from the NKJV
Gen 1:20
Then God said, "Let the waters abound with an abundance of living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the face of the firmament of the heavens."
1:21
So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
Paraphrased: God created an enormous AMOUNT of sea creatures which live IN the water. Everything that moves which are IN ABUNDANCE in the water. AND every winged bird (go back to verse 20 now) that fly above the earth. The birds are not in the water and do not come from the water.

 

[4Pillars]

Dear Amy,

You are confused. Science agrees that all living creature originated in the water abundantly, exactly as God wrote it. Now you would have us believe that only Water Creatures came on the 5th Day. Your interpretation is flawed. Birds and every other living creature originated in the Water, no matter when they were made.

God created every living creature that moveth, from the water abundantly, on the 5th Day, and Jesus produced His/their Kinds (mate) from he dust of the ground, on the 6th Day -- so that they can multiply within their own kind (no incest necessary). The creatures made from the dust were identical to those brought forth from the water, and could produce offsprings, together.

Some Modernists and Liberals hate the KJV because it allows access to the original written word. I believe God has delivered His Holy Word exactly as He wished it to be delivered. Do you question His methods?

 

[Amy.G]

Dear Amy,

You are confused. Science agrees that all living creature originated in the water abundantly, exactly as God wrote it. Now you would have us believe that only Water Creatures came on the 5th Day. Your interpretation is flawed. Birds and every other living creature originated in the Water, no matter when they were made.

God created every living creature that moveth, from the water abundantly, on the 5th Day, and Jesus produced His/their Kinds from the dust of the ground, on the 6th Day. The creatures made from the dust were identical to those brought forth from the water, and could produce offsprings, together.

Some Modernists and Liberals hate the KJV because it allows access to the original written word. I believe God has delivered His Holy Word exactly as He wished it to be delivered. Do you question His methods?

No. Just yours. You really need to find a good church and get some intense discipling.

 

[BobRyan]

Dear DHK,

Cain married one of the descendants of the sons of God, who originated, in the water, on the 5th Day. Every living Creature that moveth was created abundantly, from the water at this time. Gen 1:21

Obviously Gen 1:21 DOES NOT say "CAin married one of the descendants of the sons of God who originated IN THE WATER"

NOR does it day "sons of God were created on the 5th day"

NOR does it say that there were ANY members of mankind ALIVE BEFORE GOD MAD MAD on the 6th day!

This is just stating the obvious.

So where do you have to go to find the fiction that 4Pillars is posting????

Why to 4Pillar's posts of course!!:type:

Noah's grandsons, like Cain, had no other Humans to marry. They married and produced children with the descendants of the sons of God, made on the 5th Day.

Hmmm- more "fish people" finding a human to marry in 4Pillars wonderland of eisegesis and story telling.

Cain married one of the descendants of the sons of God, on the 1st Earth. Cush married a descendant of the sons of God, on this Planet. Both prehistoic beings originated in the Water, on Day 5. Gen. 1:21

Hmm so the fishpeople of ANOTHER PLANET married the humans of ANOTHER planet -- then the fish people of THIS plant married humans of THIS planet - post flood?

How did the NON-fish-people HUMANS (you know NOAH's race) GET HERE if there were no fish people to marry-and-fly them to other solar systems?

In Christ,

Bob

 

[Claudia_T]

The "Fish People"?

 

[DHK]

Obviously Gen 1:21 DOES NOT say "CAin married one of the descendants of the sons of God who originated IN THE WATER"

NOR does it day "sons of God were created on the 5th day"

NOR does it say that there were ANY members of mankind ALIVE BEFORE GOD MAD MAD on the 6th day!

This is just stating the obvious.

So where do you have to go to find the fiction that 4Pillars is posting????

Why to 4Pillar's posts of course!!:type:

Dear Amy,

You are confused. Science agrees that all living creature originated in the water abundantly, exactly as God wrote it

Yes, Bob, 4Pillars could write an interesting book if he put his mind to it. But it would be based on his mind, and not on the Scriptures, as he claims. Don't worry about it Amy, you are not confused; 4Pillars is.
The creation story is just as it is recorded in the first chapter of Genesis, plain and simple, and easy for all to understand.

I don't think that 4Pillars will be here to try and confuse that issue any longer.

 

[4Pillars]

Is that right? WRONG :laugh:

I've given you God's Holy Word, but as a willingly ignorant, you cannot possibly believe, since you have excluded Him from your thinking.

I've also given you a dilemma which none of you can explain. Tell us How and When we became Human. God told us, and no one here has succeeded in showing that God is a Liar, and you are included.

Todays Humans are the combination of Adam's descendants and the descendants of Prehistoric Man. I am sorry for your Scriptural ignorance since it is clearly revealed in Genesis 6.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

So what's the significance of the number 666 , oh scriptually un-ignorant one ? I'm dying to know.

 

[4Pillars]

[/COLOR][/B]Yes, Bob, 4Pillars could write an interesting book if he put his mind to it. But it would be based on his mind, and not on the Scriptures, as he claims. Don't worry about it Amy, you are not confused; 4Pillars is.
The creation story is just as it is recorded in the first chapter of Genesis, plain and simple, and easy for all to understand.

I don't think that 4Pillars will be here to try and confuse that issue any longer.

Dear DK,

Like Bob, you cannot use Scripture to support your opinions. You can only use your interpretational methods which don't agree with Scripture, Science, nor History. You base your allege "proper interpretation" on your religion's views.

There was no 24 Hour Day during Creation and Scripture does not state that there was a 24 hour Day. Genesis shows that God has 6 Creative Days, and 1 Day of Rest which will Never End. How do you explain that you think God has more than 7 Days?

 

[xdisciplex]

What is this?


It was a link called you tube, which we do not need to post on a Baptist Board.

 

[Amy.G]

Tell us How and When we became Human

Genesis 2:7
And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Thanks DHK for your encouragement.

 

[BobRyan]

The "Fish People"?

4Pillar's claimed that God was speaking to "Cro-magnon MAN" on Day 5 when He told all the living creatures In THE SEA to "multiply and FILL the seas".

4P claims that God MADE cro-magnon on DAY 3 then told Cro-Magnon to multiply and fill the seas on day 5 THEN he claims that cro-Magnon began to marry with actual "mankind" in Genesis 6.

The convulted Bible-rejecting pure-myth-spouting ideas that 4Pillars has posted are promoting the "fish people" of other worlds coming here and mate with humans in noah's day???!!

OR something like that...

Anyway -- it has been a fun ride watching all his stories unfold!!

 

[BobRyan]

And now -- a serious question

What IF there are Aliens? What does that mean to the Gospel?

If the Angels are real - are they "aliens"??

If God created another world - and places a sinless person or family there (not human) -- does that somehow change the Gospel? If so - I am missing it.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[DHK]

Dear DK,
Like Bob, you cannot use Scripture to support your opinions.

That is only your opinion which you have yet to substantiate. It seems to be a standard answer when you can't answer the Scripture given to you.

You can only use your interpretational methods which don't agree with Scripture, Science, nor History.

All Scripture, science, and history do agree with each other, which I have shown you. In fact I have shown you where you are wrong. So have others, and you still refuse to accept it because of your own ego.

You base your allege "proper interpretation" on your religion's views.

In case you hadn't heard, "proper interpretation" is based on the Bible--all of it. It is not based on man's imagination--especially yours.

There was no 24 Hour Day during Creation and Scripture does not state that there was a 24 hour Day.

There is plenty of evidence that they were 24 hour days. Because you have not taken the time to research it out does not counter the fact that they were 24 hour days. You can say that blue is the color of yellow. But that doesn't mean it is. You just need to study your colors more.

Genesis shows that God has 6 Creative Days, and 1 Day of Rest which will Never End.

Like I said: You need to study more. This is pure imagination on your part. There is no such thing on a 24 hour day that never ends. How ridiculous. Adam and Eve died a long time ago. So did the animals that were created in that day. If there is a continuation of days, then there is a continuation of nights--and yet we don't see that do we? We see a continuation of 24 hour day and nights--as God created them. The sixth day was created about 6-10,000 years ago. You have no proof that it wasn't.

How do you explain that you think God has more than 7 Days?

God rested on the seventh day. It was a 24 hour day. Adam himself was more than one week old before he died. The Bible says that he was 930 years of age--appreciably more than one week. We live more than 6000 years after Adam was created. Have you learned how to count yet. One year is 365 and a quarter days--much more than seven days. That is how I know that God has more than one day. He said so.