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I was just curious how many here believe the Holy Spirit knew what he was doing when he wrote the scriptures verses our interpretation of Greek, Aramaic, Hebrew, etc.?


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Independent? The early Christian Church was anything but. The various churches of the Apostles times were more like parishes - all got the same teaching from one source, and the letters that make up the New Testament confirm this.

 

Good stuff guys.....


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So? The Christian Church evolved over time and these things happened. There were no set aside buildings for worship either, yet they are common today. Are physical churches as we now know them somehow an error?

 

They can be, yes. Denominations are not biblical and most brick and mortar churches function from the mold of their denominational structure. Most give allegiance to their denom and not the Bible. Just like your establishment

 

Pseudohistory

The First Baptist was an Anglican. John Smyth. And the kicker is he later left it BECAUSE HE ADMITS NO SUCCESSION, He KNEW he had zero lineage to Jesus. If for a minute he believe the "independent" joke. He wouldn't have been bothered by it all.


Who baptized him? John Smyth wiki:

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"Since there was no other minister to administer baptism, Smyth baptized himself"

Before his death, Smyth regretted the fact that he baptized himself, and wrote a letter of apology.[6] Due to some shared views, including the Christology, he began a rapprochement with the Mennonite church .[7] This resulted in his excommunication from the church by Thomas Helwys. Smyth and part of the church joined a Mennonite church, while Helwys and another part of the church returned to England to found the first permanent Baptist church in 1611.[8]
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Not even Jesus baptized himself.

Reformed Baptist, John Bunyan Anglican roots again.



There are ZERO baptist prior to these guys.


You got your Mennos, they dont' believe in OSAS.

You got your Anabaptist they don't believe in Faith Alone.



The point is Baptism.

We Catholics recognize Baptism even to the point a NON-CHRISTIAN can baptize you.

If you were already baptized and then decided to be Catholic, you would not be baptized again, your already son/daughter of God.

Whereas if you have to point back to lets say Anglicans where your first pastors come from and they say well all their beliefs and baptisms are false, grab their scripture and start over, Who baptized the first? Where do you even start when you have nothing.

 

Who baptized John the Baptist?
Who did Jesus baptize?

 

We rely upon the Holy Spirit to reveal the scriptures unto us, while catholic rely upon thhe views expressed to them thru the "Mother Church"

 

Your holy spirit agrees with who else's holy spirit? Jim Jones' holy spirit?

Gnostics believe the holy spirit gives them the proper wisdom to understand the gospel, but they can't even agree with each other.

 

You would agree with false doctrines/dogmas of RCC over the inspired teachings of Jesus and His Apostles!

 

You can trash talk the Catholics all you want. I don't believe in Gnostic independence of understanding the gospel.

 

Neither do i, and iam am not trashing individual catholics, but the Harlot church of theirs!

 

Whom the Holy Spirit guides in truth.

 

Yes, that is certainly fine, but the tradition became for the Christian faith to have specific places of worship - church buildings, not just auditoriums or rented rooms somewhere.

 

Having a church building can be in error? That's the first time I have heard that one. As for denominations, I see that you are part of one denomination, so yours is not biblical? Interesting.