Matt Janes
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America should stop supporting Saudi-Arabia!
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We should continue to support Saudi Arabia. S.A. has become a close military ally with Israel. We project a huge threat to Iran through S.A.
They're both ghastly regimes who persecute Christians: a plague on both their houses
Are you misinformed? There is no difference in the viciousness of Iran and Saudi Arabia. Iran is not a place of freedom for women and Jews. All of Islam is the same and Islam must be contained. If Iran gets an atomic bomb they will drop it on you in a heartbeat. Wake up and smell the camels.
I thought England was the great persecutor of fundamental Christianity.
No, we just don't like obnoxious pillocks who spew hate around and give the rest of us Christians a bad name. And even then we don't crucify them...unlike our 'friends' the Saudis...
You just call historical, fundamental, Biblical doctrine "hate" and jail them or ban their right to speak. You talking about the Saudis is the pot calling the kettle black.
If by that you mean that we don't like fundamentalism, you'd be partly right, but you would also be confusing that with historic Christianity; fundamentalists have a lot in common with the Saudis so it would I think be them being the pot calling the kettle in complaining about the Saudis
We don't spew hate. We spend our blood and treasure on your behalf.
Now you're the one doing the conflating: this time of Americans and fundies.
And I seem to recall that Britain has been right by your side spending our blood and treasure in your last few foreign adventures - Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo etc
And I seem to recall that Britain has been right by your side spending our blood and treasure in your last few foreign adventures - Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo etc
So we should get along better and enjoy the discussions.
Yes indeed - could you let Reynolds have that memo please...
Ok, fundamental Christians and Saudis are the same. I have no more time to waste on you. No more troll food.
I didn't use the word 'Christian', you did.
Interesting...
Interesting...
Religious fundamentalists display the following traits:
Subordination of women
Hatred of gays
An insistence on literalist interpretation of their sacred texts, especially those or a violent nature
Anathematising and regarding as heretical those who do not share their views as to every detail, especially their co-religionists and particularly those whose views are closest to their own
Withdrawal from the secular world and also their co-religionists with whom.they disagree
An insistence that their viewpoint - and only their viewpoint - is correct
A desire to impose upon or convert all to their theology or withdraw violently from if they cannot
A desire that their worldview and theology dominates the society in which they live
Etc
Subordination of women
Hatred of gays
An insistence on literalist interpretation of their sacred texts, especially those or a violent nature
Anathematising and regarding as heretical those who do not share their views as to every detail, especially their co-religionists and particularly those whose views are closest to their own
Withdrawal from the secular world and also their co-religionists with whom.they disagree
An insistence that their viewpoint - and only their viewpoint - is correct
A desire to impose upon or convert all to their theology or withdraw violently from if they cannot
A desire that their worldview and theology dominates the society in which they live
Etc
From your comments in post 16, I see you are looking at Fundamentalist Christians through a much different set of prescription lenses than I and others here on the Board. I suggest you read through David Beals In Pursuit of Purity.
I would think a church founded in 1881 a generation before the rise of Proto-Fundamentalism would count as Historic (at least by the standards of the American West). We describe ourselves as a Fundamental Baptist church and have done so since 1948. Ask Martin he attended my home church during his visit to the States earlier this year. I believe he would tell you your description bears no relation to the reality
What you describe is referred to here in the States as the extreme sector of Fundamentalism aka IFBx. And even they don't fit all of your pejoratives.
I would think a church founded in 1881 a generation before the rise of Proto-Fundamentalism would count as Historic (at least by the standards of the American West). We describe ourselves as a Fundamental Baptist church and have done so since 1948. Ask Martin he attended my home church during his visit to the States earlier this year. I believe he would tell you your description bears no relation to the reality
What you describe is referred to here in the States as the extreme sector of Fundamentalism aka IFBx. And even they don't fit all of your pejoratives.
What does the 'x' stand for?
Are you saying you don't tick any of tje boxes.on my list? Do you, for example, treat women equally to men? Do you insist on a literalist interpretation of Scripture? Do you have fellowship with other Christians outside of your congregation or denomination?
Matt, I refer you to Dr. Beal's book. There is more to Christian Fundamentalism than you think.
As for my interpretation of Scripture, I (TCassidy, John of Japan and others) follow the Historical, Grammatical School of Hermeneutics. The "x" stands for extreme. And yes, I do fellowship with brethren outside my congregation and denomination. Until my health broke, I attended the annual Northern California Meeting of the FBFI. For 20 years, I've worked with the refugee Russian Evangelical Christian-Baptists.
As for my interpretation of Scripture, I (TCassidy, John of Japan and others) follow the Historical, Grammatical School of Hermeneutics. The "x" stands for extreme. And yes, I do fellowship with brethren outside my congregation and denomination. Until my health broke, I attended the annual Northern California Meeting of the FBFI. For 20 years, I've worked with the refugee Russian Evangelical Christian-Baptists.