Guess trusting in Jesus mean to him giving the terrorist a nuke, and sing trust in jesus while it goes off!
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American 'Christianity' Has Failed
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Christ never taught this, in fact he commanded his disciples to own a short sword which was a defensive weapon, the equivalent of a handgun in today's weaponry.
Luke 22:36 Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.
Scripture has also never spoken badly of walls or borders. And come to think of it, the more walls the less weapons that are needed.
Don't use proof texts to attempt try to prove a point while ignoring all the teachings of Christ on how we are to treat others and how we are to feel toward our enemies.
You are also assuming that the sword was for defense against people. Maybe it wasn't. Maybe its use was for somehting else.
As I have said a number of times, I will not let fear control my life.
There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love. 1 John 4:18
I can't exclude the verses I don't like. If Christ says buy a weapon and be ready, that's good enough for me. It doesn't contradict anything else He's said.
BTW, "turn the other cheek" is a reference to insult not violence.
Chuck Norris seems to be a "fighting christian"
Well you sure did not include them. I'd call that excluding them and using a proof-text to falsely try to prove a point. The one time a disciple pulled a sword, what was Jesus' reaction and what did he say?
He said that if you live by the sword you die by the sword. "live by the sword" is an idiomatic phrase denoting the idea of living a violent life to promote your cause. Much different than self defense, and protecting your family from intruders. Christ was telling Peter that his idea of a violent ushering in of the kingdom was not what Christ was doing (unlike popular thought at the time). This fits perfectly with Christ telling you and I to own a weapon just in case. Owning a sword just in case is not the same as living by the sword.
BTW, if it were true that guns are not allowed in self-defense, you'd be prohibited from call the police. Think about it. Calling the police means calling people with guns. If you truly are anti-gun, you'll never call the police.
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Do you lock your door at night? If so, do you do it because you are afraid, or because you think it prudent?
And if we lived as Christ taught there would be no need of a sword, a weapon of any kind to use against others.
There are many teachings of Christ on how we are to treat each other. I know of no teaching by Christ that says we are to hate others.
Illogical and blowing smoke by bringing in another topic.
Yet Jesus said just the opposite. He said there'd be wars and rumors of wars. He said buy a sword. Just look at what happens to the saints in the book of Revelation.
Yes, but the new testament clearly says we're to hate evil and hate sin, while the old testament says do not trade insult for insult and if your enemy is hungry feed them. There's no change as far was basic moral principles. Jesus wasn't rebuking the old testament he was rebuking men's word which has perverted the old testament.
Not as much of an indication of faith as it is foolishness.
Seems the o/p was started by quoting scripture but then folks were chastised for quoting scripture in return.
Hmm, no comment.
Here is a text:
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
The followers of the "prophet" Mohammed who practice al taqqiya perfectly fit this description.
It is they who are cowardly using the refugee innocents as a Trojan horse shield and in fact even boasted about that strategy to come here and murder us.
It is they who are responsible for our defensive action.
Jesus left it up to me as to how to deal with these wolfish murderers.
One way is by not allowing them the possibility of coming into my country via the ballet box.
HankD
Hmm, no comment.
Here is a text:
Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
The followers of the "prophet" Mohammed who practice al taqqiya perfectly fit this description.
It is they who are cowardly using the refugee innocents as a Trojan horse shield and in fact even boasted about that strategy to come here and murder us.
It is they who are responsible for our defensive action.
Jesus left it up to me as to how to deal with these wolfish murderers.
One way is by not allowing them the possibility of coming into my country via the ballet box.
HankD
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John the Baptist did not tell roman soldiers to put do their weapons, but to collect taxes correctly!
John the Baptist did not tell roman soldiers to put do their weapons, but to collect taxes correctly!
Or could do as Israel was commanded to do by God, destroy them! if we found out a large group of just them were assembled in Syria, dropping a big bomb on themn could gety them to their allenged paradise/virgins that much quicker!
Thepresident should allow th terrosists 24 hrs to all gather together, adn carpet bomb the lot, as we would be allowing them to die as marters for allah!Y, you are definitely a hawk!
HankD
And it was born-again Christians who fought in the CSA
and it was Evangelical Christians who fought against the ERA
So what is your point?
Totally correct Salty.
And it was born-again preachers who defended slavery and northern preachers who preached anti-slavery sermons.
It was born-again folk who voted heavily for the non-Christian Trump. Well, they will have plenty of time to repend in the future.
Well, God raises up the lers, so ar we to blame God for Trump then?