American Public Turns Anti-War …

[NaasPreacher (C4K)]

the thing I hate about America going to war in today's times (that means except for the past 'world war' and Korea), is that we just send off our men and women and then, when politically expedient the pencil pushers and microphone-eaters in Washington, the Pentagon, and everywhere else they may be, just tell our guys to (1) forget about your buddies who died, (2) lick your wounds and put on your prosthetics, (3) try to control your nightmares and suicidal urges and go visit the 'doc' for your sociological and psychological transition into society, and (4) join the ranks of the unemployed.

In short, we don't finish the job, and the blood of our troops become cheap, and we are bullies who huff and puff but are found to be 'just for appearances'.

now, some of the more educated here can demolish what I stated, and that's fine, but if I have to, in another thread or forum, I will say it again.

I basically agree, but am curious why you exempt Korea.

 

[carpro]

Probably means you were on the right side of the issue.

Not very likely.

I can think of nothing good about today's brand of socailism.

 

[RLBosley]

Being called a socialist, and being a socialist are two different animals.

 

[Salty]

If a favorite sport was rigged so “officials,” game announcer, and reporting media allowed massive destruction of the rules that effectively devolved the game into a tragic-comic joke, you would be livid, speak-up, and take some kind of action.

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So now we are talking about the NBA and Sterling

 

[pinoybaptist]

I basically agree, but am curious why you exempt Korea.

because, and correct me if I am wrong, I think the Korean war is a "good" war (if any war is at all good). and what I mean is we are not cast in the role of bullies and aggressors.

 

[FollowTheWay]

... and that's what the liberal nanny-staters don't understand.

Going to war definitely was necessary in WW2 and probably Korea. The first Gulf war was about keeping our committment to our ally Kuwait. Viet Nam, Afghanistan and Iraq were all terrible mistakes that accomplished nothing and cost trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands to millions of lives. We never had clearly defined objectives in any of these wars and I believe that history will say that the United States lost all 3 of them (certainly Viet Nam).

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

the thing I hate about America going to war in today's times (that means except for the past 'world war' and Korea), is that we just send off our men and women and then, when politically expedient the pencil pushers and microphone-eaters in Washington, the Pentagon, and everywhere else they may be, just tell our guys to (1) forget about your buddies who died, (2) lick your wounds and put on your prosthetics, (3) try to control your nightmares and suicidal urges and go visit the 'doc' for your sociological and psychological transition into society, and (4) join the ranks of the unemployed.
In short, we don't finish the job, and the blood of our troops become cheap, and we are bullies who huff and puff but are found to be 'just for appearances'.
now, some of the more educated here can demolish what I stated, and that's fine, but if I have to, in another thread or forum, I will say it again.

:thumbsup: This, particularly the emboldened part!!

Since Vietnam, and the arrival of the news camera in every combat zone since, our foreign policy has been dictated by popular opinion and body counts. The higher the body count, the more unpopular the war, regardless of whether the cause undertaken is necessary or not. In truth of my experience in twenty years in the Army, there were no "unnecessary wars," just badly executed ones.

The Evening News brought shattered, broken and bloodied bodies into America's living room every night during Vietnam. Ordinary people discovered what soldiers have known since the first ancients threw rocks and spears at one another: War is ugly, war is frightening, war is hell. But war is often necessary, and for that reason the combat soldier, the combat officer, the combat support team member all live -- or die -- with the ugly, frightening hell of war.

People in their suburban four-bedroom, two-and-a-half-bath, three-car garage lifestyles aren't ready to face that fact. They turn away, and they want America to turn away. Ofttimes we can't. There are circumstances and principles that are larger than life -- or death.

Rule #1 of War: Young men die.
Rule #2 of War: No one can change Rule #1.

Because of Rule #2, we should at all costs avoid war. We should use every avenue to maintain, if not peace, then at least uneasy non-hostility. But if it becomes necessary, we cannot shy away from war. It is a fact of human nature, of human history, and it will be necessary again.

We cannot afford to decide we will not participate simply because we do not like it. No one does.

 

[poncho]

Since Vietnam, and the arrival of the news camera in every combat zone since, our foreign policy has been dictated by popular opinion and body counts.

In other words "Democracy sucks! Americans shouldn't be allowed to see what their government is doing in their names because they might not like what they see."

Our "foreign policy" has been dictated by a small group of international financiers and corporate insiders that benefit from war. They have no loyalty to this country our those they send into battle.

Their chief concerns are with money, power and control.