An answer to the sinless day

[Bro. Curtis]

I'm with you, Dagga-whag.:laugh:

 

[Diggin in da Word]

Lets stick to the topic

And let me add a scripture that covers us all

"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not"

HomeSkillets----there's the command--no two doubts about it--we are commanded NOT to sin.

But Romans 3:23 includes us, too because God's mind dwells in the eternal infinite world where He reads every thought and every imagination of the mind---and He knows our minds are not yet dwelling in a state of immortality---and He knows sure as we're sitting here that by and by---we're gonna BLOW that command that commands us NOT to sin

And thats why He has made provision---cause see---I don't know if I can make it 24 hours or 24 days or 24 months or the next 24 seconds before the carnal mind that still dwells in me will rear up its ugly head and I sin

He tells us NOT to sin

BUT read on to the end of the sentence of verse 1 of I John 2

"My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ, the righteous."

If I sin---I have an advocate!!! When I confess that sin according to I John 1:9---He(the Lord Jesus Christ) is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness"

When I confess that sin----its as if the Lord Jesus looks at His Father and says----"Father!!! David just confessed that(such and such)sin----Father!!!!!! I've got him covered!!!!

He tells me not to sin(thats the Father's perfect will)----but if I do(and remember---just one little impure thought---some little speck of unkindness toward someone in my heart)---I confess that sin--repent of it---and throw myself at Jesus' feet---He's got me covered!!!

Now---if you reckon you can go on and on and on and on in a sinless state----fine and dandy---that just tells me---well---you don't need Jesus as your advocate---but I promise you on the authority of the Scripture---that IF you do sin---you're gonna need an advocate!!! Just remember---IJohn 2:1 gives you one!!! Amen?????

Brother David,

With all due respect, neither I, standingfirminChrist,BaptistBeleiver,Linda64 or His Blood Spoke My Name has said we never sin. We all fail miserably from time to time. The time period is the question.

Some can go for 24 minutes without sin, some even longer. Some I truly believe have and will go without sinning for more than a day. But sooner or later, they will fall. The flesh truly is weak and we do give in to it at times.

The more walks with God, the less one is going to give in to sin. The more one hears, and obeys the Word, the less that one will sin.

But we will never truly be sinless this side of glory.

 

[Dale-c]

Well, we will just have to start our own forum, baptistdrinkersboard.com just kidding! lol

 

[saturneptune]

The likes of me? Such an attack is not necessary. It is definitely not Christ-like.

Now which is it? You have implied that people who feel like Brother Curtis and DaleC who are against your 24 hour perfection period are preaching a christ not in the Bible, that they will not recognize Christ nor He them. Now, if that is the case, why would you turn right around and say that is not Christ-like? Isnt that what you would expect from someone who will not recognize Christ?

***Personal attack deleted***

Moderator warning: Thread will be closed upon the next attack

 

[npetreley]

I'm with you, Dagga-whag.:laugh:

Wow, an Angry Beavers fan, too? Great minds, bro.

 

[Diggin in da Word]

Now which is it? You have implied that people who feel like Brother Curtis and DaleC who are against your 24 hour perfection period are preaching a christ not in the Bible, that they will not recognize Christ nor He them. Now, if that is the case, why would you turn right around and say that is not Christ-like? Isnt that what you would expect from someone who will not recognize Christ?

Tell you what, these two have a better understanding of the Scripture and depravity of the human heart than you will ever approach in this lifetime.

The statement and the attitude that it was presented in was far from Christ-like.

 

[mcdirector]

Amen, bro. If they kick you, please kick me, too. We baldies have to stick together.

You are bald?!

 

[Dale-c]

The statement and the attitude that it was presented in was far from Christ-like.

I am sure that no statement I ever make is truly Christ like. But then I never claimed to be like Christ, though we all should strive to be holy as He is Holy.

It matter not what would Jesus Do, but what He would have us do.

 

[mcdirector]

Well, we will just have to start our own forum, baptistdrinkersboard.com just kidding! lol

But it would have to be biblical wine which I believe is only 2. something something in alcoholic content

 

[saturneptune]

The statement and the attitude that it was presented in was far from Christ-like.

Actually, my opinion is the words that were thrown at him (Brother Curtis), he showed amazing restraint, and shows he is a gentleman, and that comes from God. I can think of lots of things he could have said coming from a human heart.

 

[saturneptune]

Well, we will just have to start our own forum, baptistdrinkersboard.com just kidding! lol

I'll drink to that.

 

[J.D.]

I'm glad you guys caught the joke. I thought somebody would think I was serious.

But seriously, I believe the Adamic nature never ceases from sin, in spite of our new natures. It's sort of like dualism, but it isn't actually Dualism.

It's like this: our old natures constantly sin - our new natures never sin - they fight against each other - the result is a life-long roller coaster experience. Do we progress over time (progressive santification). Probably, but I'm not ready to argue with anyone pro/con on PS.

 

[npetreley]

With all due respect, neither I, standingfirminChrist,BaptistBeleiver,Linda64 or His Blood Spoke My Name has said we never sin.

We're arguing across each other. The whole tangent about wine/grape juice started because SFiC said this:

Curtis,

Quit acting childish.

I have gone over all the posts in this thread and all the accusations have been toward HBSMN, not from him.

We retorted that this is not the case at all, at least if you consider other threads. HBS and company, including you, have repeatedly implied that anyone who believes Jesus drank wine is not saved (actually, "imply" is too tame a word - you dance to keep at a distance, but your accusations are clear). Indeed, none of us even have to drink wine ourselves. According to your holiest of holy group, our just believing Jesus drank wine is enough to condemn us to hell.

Now - you take that stance and add to it the outrageous self-righteousness that bleeds all over this thread, and one has to wonder what you folks are drinking. Sure, you don't say you're sinless. You simply say that by your OWN standards, imperfect as you may be whether you admit it or not, you think you do so well at leaning on Jesus that you measure up to being sinless for minutes, hours or days.

What you fail to understand is that we're not so arrogant that we think we can judge ourselves looking through our own eyes. We know we can't see our performance through God's eyes, so we admit that even if WE THINK we're sinless for 24 seconds, we KNOW God may see it differently. So it would be the height of arrogance to say we are so spiritual that we can lean on Jesus so perfectly for 24 seconds/minutes/hours, that we can walk away and say, "Wow, we were sinless for that period of time!"

 

[npetreley]

You are bald?!

Yup. It gets worse. I'm probably the only living 54 year old 100% full custody single dad of a 13 and 10 year old. I'm running for the "least eligible bachelor" award.

 

[mcdirector]

Yup. It gets worse. I'm probably the only living 54 year old 100% full custody single dad of a 13 and 10 year old. I'm running for the "least eligible bachelor" award.

I only asked because it's really hard to tell from your picture

You don't need to be looking for a woman with a 13 and 10 year old at home anyway nowdoya? Besides, you have us :thumbs:

 

[npetreley]

I only asked because it's really hard to tell from your picture

You don't need to be looking for a woman with a 13 and 10 year old at home anyway nowdoya? Besides, you have us :thumbs:

You're right, who has time?

LOL, I thought you might be referring to my picture, but I wasn't sure. That's a picture of Daggett Beaver from my favorite cartoon show, Angry Beavers. It was on Nickelodeon in the 90s. They do reruns now and then, but usually only on Nicktoons.

 

[saturneptune]

Yup. It gets worse. I'm probably the only living 54 year old 100% full custody single dad of a 13 and 10 year old. I'm running for the "least eligible bachelor" award.

I'll sell you my mother-in-law.

 

[blackbird]

The only person who can honestly and truly stand up and say that he has lived a PERFECT, FLAWLESS, SINLESS life---is the Lord Jesus Christ!!! Therefore, I take HIS life by faith and present HIS life before the FATHER---HIS sinlessness imputed to me justifies me before the Father

See??

The point is----the only person who has gone 24 hours without sin is the Lord Jesus---and when I stand before the Father---it'll be His sinless perfection that justifies me before Him---not whether or not I did 24/7!!!

 

[Diggin in da Word]

Well, you may as well rip out of the Bible the Scriptures that tell you to Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lusts of the flesh.'

Because from what I am reading, it looks like you don't believe it is possible.

 

[rbell]

I'll sell you my mother-in-law.

does that little yellow triangle in the corner of your post email your mother-in-law?:applause: