An honest and accurate essay on Lincoln

[Revmitchell]

Yes, it does. States cannot create other states within its boundaries, neither can they join with another to create a new state without the consent of Congress.

Neither can they trade or make treaties with foreign countries.

And the list goes on.

The long and the short of it is this. Once a entity becomes a state, there is nothing that gives it the power to secede.

Despite the accusations against Lincoln (many of which are dubious) he was well within the scope of his office as chief law enforcement officer to enforce the statehood of those that defected.

Nothing you said is correct or supported by the constitution. Just as an example the fed cannot enter a state for even benevolent reasons unless invited by the state first. The main problem after Katrina was the the Louisiana Governor waited way to long to invite any federal assistance in.

 

[Aaron]

Nothing you said is correct or supported by the constitution.

Have you read it? I didn't make this stuff up.

 

[Revmitchell]

Have you read it?

yea and apparently you do not understand the concept of enumerated powers.

 

[Aaron]

Sure I do. The power to grant or deny statehood rests solely with congress.

 

[Alcott]

In fact, the issue of secession has been heard by the courts numerous times, and they have consistently interpreted the constitutional provisions on statehood to be irrevocable by secession.

As I assume you are referring to White v. Texas (1869) in particular, or as one such case, that was just wrongly decided constitutionally by Amendment X. The obvious reason was: in the recent war between the seceded states and the present "reconstruction" thereof, is the highest court in the land now going to say the Union had no legal authority to resist secession, and thus operated under nothing but imperialism? [Northern] Americans were too dead set that they preserved the Union, rather than they conquered a foreign sovereignty, as with Mexico 2 decades earlier.

 

[Revmitchell]

Sure I do. The power to grant or deny statehood rests solely with congress.

Which has nothing to do with succession

 

[Revmitchell]

In the end if a state wants to secede it will and nothing can be done about it. It has already been done by 11 states in the past and they later chose to rejoin the Union.

 

[RAdam]

Some states have written into their state constitutions that they can't secede. Mississippi is one of them.

 

[Aaron]

Which has nothing to do with succession

It has everything to do with secession. If only congress can grant statehood, then only congress can revoke it.