BobRyan said:
If you can bring yourself to believe that Adam was created GOOD and KNEW God was GOOD but did not know GOOD -- then you can see canadyjd's argument perfectly.
Ok, BobRyan, Show me the words "Adam knew that God was good" in the text? Oh, they are not there! You must be adding them to the text.
Ok BobRyan, show me the words "Adam knew good because God made everything good, but did not know evil?" Oh, those words aren't there either! You must be adding them to the text.
Ok, BobRyan, show me the words "Adam knew good by experience?" Oh, those words aren't there either! You must be adding them to the text.
Ok BobRyan, since I have given you the very Hebrew words for "experience" and "knew", and identified them by number, and have demonstrated plainly they are different words; and have demonstrated by context that the word "knowledge" in the text, does in fact mean "knowledge" (their eyes were opened) and not "experience", why do you keep insisting the word means something it does not?
So that is it in a nutshell... if you can INSERT "did not know GOOD OR EVIL" where the bible actually says "did not know BOTH good AND evil" (as in the obvious case of only knowing good but not both good and evil before sinning) -- then again - you should be able to quickly take Canadyjd's POV here...I for one - can not take such liberties with scripture.
So, here in a nutshell is BobRyan's argument. Canadyjd takes liberties with the text which he (BobRyan) would never do, since canadyjd said (and BobRyan's own quoted source, Mr. Jamieson affirms) the text means they didn't know good or evil until they ate of the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil"; when in fact the text says (BobRyan is quoting scripture here: "did not know BOTH good AND evil")
But wait...BobRyan...where in the text does it say "did not know BOTH good AND evil". I can't find it. Do you want to guess why I can't find it, BobRyan? Because that is not what the text says!
Are you taking liberties with the text, BobRyan, in the very breath you are claiming you could never do such a thing? It seems you have. How embarrassing for you.
And as for my question still not answered ... "WHY must you contradict scripture by inserting the idea DID NOT KNOW GOOD OR EVIL... where does it get you? What is to be gained by that?"
Your question is utter nonsense and not worthy of a response.
Against my better judgment, I decided to continue to debate you after you appeared willing to address the text. What is clear to me, now, is that when confronted with facts you will always resort to distortion and wild accusations.
Therefore, I will say again. Let's end it here.
peace to you

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