BobRyan said:
#1. You change "they did not know good AND evil" to they did not KNOW GOOD OR evil. You state that you don't think they knew it was GOOD to OBEY God
I changed nothing, BobRyan. I said they did not know good or evil before they ate of the "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil". Your own quoted source, Mr. Jamieson affirmed that position.
You, however, claimed the bible says "did not know BOTH good and evil". You put those words in quotes (as if it were a direct quote from scripture), and made the statement "the bible says". You have done exactly what you claimed I did (but I did not).
You have added words to scripture to make it fit your beliefs.
#2. You insert the false teaching that they did not even know that God was Good!! (which may explain why you also imagine that they did not know it was good to OBEY God). and
#3. God SAYS that at the end of the SIXth day ALL was good -- and you come back with the wild statement "Ok BobRyan, show me the words "Adam knew good because God made everything good, but did not know evil?"
I inserted no teaching at all. You claimed I added words to scripture. I asked you to show me those words in scripture. You are teaching them. You are making the assumptions, based on what you want scripture to teach.
The fact is that the words "Adam knew God was good" are not found in Genesis. The fact is, none of the statements you have made confident assertions about are found in the text, and are, in fact, contradicted by the plain meaning of the words in context.
AS IF we are supposed to think that BEFOR DOING evil Adam "knew evil by experience" which is the word for KNOW here!
I have shown you the very Hebrew words for "know (by experience)" and "knowledge", and identified them by number and have demonstrated they are different words. And yet, you keep making the same argument over and over, that "knowledge" really means "know by experience". :BangHead: And then you have the audacity to tell me to make a "substansive" argument?
Your games have all been exposed on each of those point so far sir.
The only thing that has been exposed is your complete lack of understanding of the the most basic concepts in bible study.
I have met few people in my life as able as you are in not allowing the plain meaning of the words of scripture to get in the way of what they want to believe.
peace to you

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