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And There Was War In Heaven

Steven Yeadon

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Oh my dear brother in Christ Steven

As I said above, the material things are figure of spiritual things. The parables of JESUS are good examples. What you described as "heavens", actually are regions of spaces in the sky.

See, heaven(s) are celestial or heavenly environment in Christ. Ephesians 1:v.3, for example, say: 3
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Which are these heavenly places in Christ?

What did God reveal to Moses? Genesis 1:v.1 -
In the beginning -in JESUS- God created the heavens - the 1st, the 2nd, the 3rd heavens, and the heaven of the heavens - and the earth. Without JESUS was not any thing made that was made.

What was the 1st heaven - first celestial or heavenly environment - our God created? It was The Old Testament - The Law and the Prophets beginning by Moses who received great and very deep revelations from the Most High and Almighty God.

What was or is the 2nd heaven - the 2nd celestial or heavenly environment - our God created? It was or is yet The New Testament - this 2nd heaven was planted by the Lord JESUS Christ with His apostles and disciples, His Church, His body .

What will be the 3rd heaven -
the 3rd celestial or heavenly environment - our God will establish in this seventh and last millennium or seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day? Paul, the Apostle, did write to the Corinthians, saying: 2 Corinthians 12:v.2-4
2 I knew a man in Christ ...(whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
such an one caught up to the third heaven. 3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;)
4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter. Read Luke 20:v.35-36 and 1 Cor.15:v.51-58 and Revelation among others.


What or how will be the indescribable environment of the heaven of the heavens? Be sure that here, in the heaven of the heavens, will begin the Eternity.


In Christ JESUS, KING of kings and LORD of lords


Oseas



PS.
Rev. 5:v.10 - And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

What are you talking about? That post is word salad. You've read into the text of the bible and added so much that is not there. What you did is wrong.
 

Oseas3

Active Member
What are you talking about?

Did not you understand? We speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory. But God has revealed them unto us by His Spirit: for the Spirit searches all things, yea, the deep things of God.

That post is word salad.[/QUOTE said:
Oh no, the Word of God is the bread of the heaven. By the way, the Word is God, the bread of God comes down from heaven and gives life unto the world, this is the bread which comes down from heaven that a man may eat thereof, and not die. Great mystery.


You've read into the text of the bible and added so much that is not there.[/QUOTE said:
Oh no, I did not add nothing that there is not, absolutely, I did speak of the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory.
Remember, you said before "... The first heaven is where clouds are, the second heaven is where stars are ..." , actually this is a vision of material things, a materialist vision, that has nothing to do with heavenly places in Christ, so, in my understand, you should study better this matter not by the spirit of man which is in him, for what man knows the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knows no man, but the Spirit of God.

Anyway, be ready because henceforward will fulfil LITERALLY the prophecy of around two thousand years ago of Peter the Apostle, that says: 2Peter 3:v.7-8 and 10-13 --> 7 But the heavens and the earth, which ARE NOW, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of Judgment - the Lord's Day - and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one Day.
10 ... the heavens shall pass away with a great noise - the 1st and the 2nd heavens - , and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the WORKS that are therein shall be BURNED UP.
11 Seeing then that ALL THESE THINGS SHALL BE DISSOLVED, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the Day of God - the Lord's Day - , wherein the heavens - the 1st and the 2nd heavens, i.e. the Dispensations of the Old and New Testaments - being on FIRE shall be DISSOLVED, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.


All these things will fulfil themeselves LITERALLY henceforward. There are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word - the Word made flesh - , and the Holy Spirit: and these three are One.

What you did is wrong.[/QUOTE said:
Oh no, be sure I am not wrong, absolutely, I am right. I work with the Word of God, the Word is God from everlasting to everlasting. Who interpret the Word of God - God is Spirit - by the letter, then he is a killer of souls, because the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
 

Steven Yeadon

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Did not you understand? We speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory. But God has revealed them unto us by His Spirit: for the Spirit searches all things, yea, the deep things of God.

You are mistaken on how to interpret the bible. I believe you are mutilating the scriptures to fit your so called mysteries. However, I will leave things there and bow out.
 

Oseas3

Active Member
You are mistaken on how to interpret the bible. I believe you are mutilating the scriptures to fit your so called mysteries. However, I will leave things there and bow out.

Oh no, I am not mistaken, for I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of the LORDJesus, our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself.

But as it is written, Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God has prepared for them that love Him.

In Christ JESUS, KING of kings and LORD of lords
 
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