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Annan says Iraq war illegal

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Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
Who cares what the corrupt UN leader thinks.

When we are in America, we should follow America's law unless one wishes to declare war and face the consequences of that action. Likewise in other countries as well. There should be no international law. We should be sovereign nations.

Joseph Botwinick
AMEN!!!Brother Joseph, that is the bottom line, America, is a free nation, Independent of the rest of the world, we do as we please, and we don't let anyone tell us what to do! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
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Originally posted by KenH:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Joseph_Botwinick:
There should be no international law.
What about the Geneva Conventions? </font>[/QUOTE]Apperently, terrorist don't play by the rules.
 

JGrubbs

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Originally posted by church mouse guy:
America rejected isolationism on December 7, 1941, "a day that will live in infamy."
Paleocons are not isolationists. The word "isolationist" is a pejorative term that is used to describe anyone who does not favor using America’s wealth and power or blood for their particular cause. Paleocons believe that the United States of America is the greatest nation on earth, that it should trade with all nations, that Americans should travel to all nations, that we should have diplomatic contact with all nations, and that we should have regular commerce and cultural exchanges with all nations. They just don’t believe in fighting foreign countries’ wars or paying foreign countries’ bills. That is not isolationism; that is patriotism, and that is Americanism.

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JGrubbs

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From U.S. Senior District Judge Bruce S. Jenkins:

The words of the Constitution are plain. Section 8 of Article 1 says, "Congress shall have the power . . . to declare war . . . ." They did this deliberately and with full appreciation of the hard lessons of history, particularly British, French, Roman and Greek history. The design was to limit the power of one man to take the nation into war. They taught that the decision to start a war, and the inevitable cost in lives and treasure, foreseen and unforeseen, required that the nation make such a critical decision through its representatives in Congress, and to announce such group decision by a declaration. The president has no power to declare war. The judiciary has no power to declare war. The legislative branch, and it alone, has the power to declare war. To date, the Congress has not declared war against anyone, including Iraq. Yet the president calls himself a wartime president. The Congress has funded a war, off budget, that has yet to be declared. The failure to declare implicates international treaties and agreements, including how we treat prisoners. Nowhere in that hallowed document, the Constitution, do we find that the president may declare war. In 2002, the Congress passed a resolution which in effect delegated to the president the power to make war: "3. (a) AUTHORIZATION. - The president is authorized to use the Armed Forces of the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in order to - (1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq . . . ." Nowhere in the venerable document do we find the power of the Congress to delegate its responsibility to another, president or not. The Congress cannot amend the Constitution by legislation or resolution.

U.S. Senior District Judge Bruce S. Jenkins has served 26 years on the federal bench in Salt Lake City.

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church mouse guy

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NetPub, you are out in left field again. When a nation withdraws foreign aid and cuts and runs from terrorists, that is isolationism according to standard American usage that every American understands because we had it in the 1930s.

As for your Utah judge, did he ask Uncle Peroutka to file suit in his court? Then we would really see what this nut judge would do when faced with reality. The Peroutkistas would condemn George Washington for waging war against the Whiskey Rebellion except they don't have the nerve to assault a Founding Father. Peroutka will destroy the Constitution Party. Good-bye, Taxpayers Party. It seems that third parties seldom outlive their founder.
 
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