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Anti-Calvinism Scriptural Food-Fight (By Popular Request)

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SolaSaint

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I see how this is going before you hopefully reply. Please forget my comment. I cannot play by rules of using single verses to promote doctrine. And I don't do that either so I'm not your target. See ya
 

Benjamin

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Ridiculous. Can you use some more derogatory terminology? Nothing he said had any carnality to it, no matter what size font you've used in response. As far as how you've acted above, well carnality there is glaring.

You've been answered concisely, proven incorrect by jhb28 and iconoclast. They exegeted and you eisegeted. Same stuff different day.

:thumbs: :wavey:

STOP! Your comment is off topic.

This is simply a tread for those who wish to offer Anti-Calvinism scriptures to show they exists WITHOUT "carnal philosophical reasoning"!!!

Please take all attempts to begin personal attacks and to use your "carnal philosophical reasoning" to refute the clear teaching of scripture and begin your own tread.

There are rules here (not mine, but as requested) to be followed!



 

Iconoclast

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STOP! OFF TOPIC!!!

There is NO "carnal philosophical reasoning" included in this tread as per your RULES! "No Correction is welcomed!"This tread is merely to demonstrate that we use scripture to support our Anti-Calvinism position! There is no resorting to "carnal philosophical reasoning".

I did use scripture...but seeing as you added to God's word ..that was a foul and had to be called out. The scriptural arguement is intact.
 

Benjamin

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I see how this is going before you hopefully reply. Please forget my comment. I cannot play by rules of using single verses to promote doctrine. And I don't do that either so I'm not your target. See ya

Off TOPIC!
 

preacher4truth

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So God says seek, and persons do that (which is bogus) and when they find Him they get the free gift of eternal life!!!!!! YAY!!!! :rolleyes:

That's a works based salvation. That he (bennie) cannot see that in quoting Deut. is beyond me, he's missed the entire point. Man cannot and is dependent upon grace/mercy Romans 9:16, John 1:13.

Bennies interpretation is semi-pelagianism if not full. Makes salvation a reward, not a gift. Clearly bennie doesn't understand the implications of God's call, and that it is all through Christ, John 14:6. Only.

Thus we see the carnal philosophical reasoning of bennie inserted into passages of Scripture, with more to come.
 

Benjamin

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I did use scripture...but seeing as you added to God's word ..that was a foul and had to be called out. The scriptural arguement is intact.

Off Topic!

"NO corrrection is welcomed!" If you are blind to clear meaning of scripture I cannot help you.

The sole purpose of this tread is supply that scripture to you as per you request so you can no longer rely on the argument that none exist...and this tread WILL BE RUN ACCORDING TO YOUR RULES!

NO carnal philosphical reasoning!
 

Benjamin

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So God says seek, and persons do that (which is bogus) and when they find Him they get the free gift of eternal life!!!!!! YAY!!!! :rolleyes:

That's a works based salvation. That he (bennie) cannot see that in quoting Deut. is beyond me, he's missed the entire point. Man cannot and is dependent upon grace/mercy Romans 9:16, John 1:13.

Bennies interpretation is semi-pelagianism if not full. Makes salvation a reward, not a gift. Clearly bennie doesn't understand the implications of God's call, and that it is all through Christ, John 14:6. Only.

Thus we see the carnal philosophical reasoning of bennie inserted into passages of Scripture, with more to come.

STOP! Your comment is off topic.

This is simply a tread for those who wish to offer Anti-Calvinism scriptures to show they exists WITHOUT "carnal philosophical reasoning"!!!


Please take all attempts to begin personal attacks and to use your "carnal philosophical reasoning" to refute the clear teaching of scripture and begin your own tread.

There are rules here (not mine, but as requested) to be followed!

REPEAT:

The sole purpose of this tread is supply that scripture...
 

Benjamin

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1) (Eph 1:13) In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that Holy Spirit of promise,

2) Demonstrates the means salvation of salvation is after faith and the individual’s ability to respond to the power of the Gospel before being regenerated and sealed.

3) Refutes the Determinist’ doctrines of inability and regeneration before faith.
 

Amy.G

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STOP


2 questions.

1. Why do you keep saying "tread" instead of thread? Is it a joke? I know I'm not as "intellectual" as you, so maybe I'm just too dumb to get it. Or maybe you just have spelling issues.

2. Are you trying to get yourself banned?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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STOP! Your comment is off topic.

This is simply a tread for those who wish to offer Anti-Calvinism scriptures to show they exists WITHOUT "carnal philosophical reasoning"!!!


Please take all attempts to begin personal attacks and to use your "carnal philosophical reasoning" to refute the clear teaching of scripture and begin your own tread.

There are rules here (not mine, but as requested) to be followed!

REPEAT:

The sole purpose of this tread is supply that scripture...

Oh Christmas colors....how festive!:D
 

Benjamin

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STOP


2 questions.

1. Why do you keep saying "tread" instead of thread? Is it a joke? I know I'm not as "intellectual" as you, so maybe I'm just too dumb to get it. Or maybe you just have spelling issues.

2. Are you trying to get yourself banned?

Off Topic!
Personal attacks are against the rules. Please do not troll this "tread" ...if you have any scripture to offer to the cause, do so, if not your off topic personal attacks are NOT welcome.
 

Amy.G

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Off Topic!
Personal attacks are against the rules. Please do not troll this "tread" ...if you have any scripture to offer to the cause, do so, if not your off topic personal attacks are NOT welcome.

:laugh: The only person attacked was me. I called you an intellectual and me dumb. :laugh:

But I'll be nice and not "troll the tread".
 

Benjamin

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1) (Psa 145:17) The LORD is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works.

(Psa 145:18) The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth.

2) Demonstrates the Lord is available to ALL men who call upon Him and is righteous in judgment pertaining to the truth in that matter.

3) Refutes the Determinist’ doctrines of inability and limited atonement.

More scripture pertaining to the truth of God's judgment being in all ways which demonstrates TRUE responsibility of the creature to respond to His calling of Grace:

1) He is the Rock, his work is perfect: for all his ways are judgment: a God of truth and without iniquity, just and right is he.
(Deu 32:4)

3) Scriptures which refutes the T, I, L, and U points of the Determinist' doctrines.
 
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OldRegular

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STOP! YOU ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE REQUESTED CALVINIST PRINCIPLES OF DEBATE!

This tread is to demonstrate that Non-Calvinist do indeed use scripture to refute the Determinist system and is to comply with the demands of the Calvinist/Determinist for a scriptural food-fight with WITHOUT getting into philosophical debate which would require ethical rules of argument (i.e. “carnal philosophical reasoning”).

The entire premise of the "free will" doctrine must be philosophical since it is clearly not Biblical!



The topic is simple, offer Anti-Calvinism scripture to show it does indeed exists while maintaining the premise in the OP. Please stay on topic which only requires presenting such non-existent scripture and a “brief” explanation of why the scripture is use.

You have confused yourself! You want folks to post Anti-Calvinism scripture scripture to show it does indeed exists yet then foolishly call it non-existent!!!!!!:confused:



If anyone wants to start a “carnal philosophical argument” involving in-depth reasoning about a particular scriptural interpretation then: START YOUR TREAD ON THAT SUBJECT.

Philosophical arguments, especially about non-existent Scripture, are inherently carnal!
 

webdog

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Acts 17:26-27(spoken to pagans)

proves ALL men were place precisely in the exact and perfect location geographicly and linearly to seek Him and "perhaps" reach out for Him (literally grope around as if in the dark) although He is not far frrom ANY one of us.

Refutes the T, U, L, and I.

How was that Benjamin? :D
 

jbh28

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Off Topic!
Personal attacks are against the rules. Please do not troll this "tread" ...if you have any scripture to offer to the cause, do so, if not your off topic personal attacks are NOT welcome.

Sounds like someone's corn flakes may need to be thrown away. The only one trolling is you btw....
 

Benjamin

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The entire premise of the "free will" doctrine must be philosophical since it is clearly not Biblical!




You have confused yourself! You want folks to post Anti-Calvinism scripture scripture to show it does indeed exists yet then foolishly call it non-existent!!!!!!:confused: (it is not me saying it is Non-existent but is to present otherwise concerning the typical argument of the Calvinist/Determinist that they do NOT exist. :rolleyes:) This thread is to show they exist! Duh!



Philosophical arguments, especially about non-existent Scripture, are inherently carnal!

Off Topic!

This thread is to present scripture, which the Calvinist/Determinist commonly declare do not exist, while calling any debate over the interpretation of the scriptures "carnal philosophical reasoning". If you would like to present Anti-Calvinism scriptures please do so...if not, please do not troll this thread with your carnal reasoning and arguments.
 

Benjamin

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Acts 17:26-27(spoken to pagans)

proves ALL men were place precisely in the exact and perfect location geographicly and linearly to seek Him and "perhaps" reach out for Him (literally grope around as if in the dark) although He is not far frrom ANY one of us.

Refutes the T, U, L, and I.

How was that Benjamin? :D

Very good to see someone can follow simple directions!
 

Amy.G

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Acts 17:26-27(spoken to pagans)

proves ALL men were place precisely in the exact and perfect location geographicly and linearly to seek Him and "perhaps" reach out for Him (literally grope around as if in the dark) although He is not far frrom ANY one of us.

Refutes the T, U, L, and I.

How was that Benjamin? :D
How does that refute it? Who placed them there?
 
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