KenH
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2016 Presidential General Election Results
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Anti-Trump backlash fuels a Democratic sweep in Virginia and elections across the country
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Total 137,125,484
2016 Presidential General Election Results
Even Fox gets things right once in a while.
THE 12 REASONS VA WENT DEM IN 2017 — AND WHAT GOP MUST LEARN…
by KEN KLUKOWSK
…TRUMP BASE DID NOT SHOW UP. WHY WOULD THEY?
by JOHN NOLTE
Even Fox gets things right once in a while.
THE 12 REASONS VA WENT DEM IN 2017 — AND WHAT GOP MUST LEARN…
by KEN KLUKOWSK
…TRUMP BASE DID NOT SHOW UP. WHY WOULD THEY?
by JOHN NOLTE
Hey, that's awesome...using Breitbart to "prove" Fox is right.
Sorry, I forgot you only trust liberal sites.
Don't worry, I haven't forgotten [Edited: rule violation].
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so you hate fox, hate breitbart. who are the supposed conservative sites you like?
No they were not. There was always a possibility that Candidate Trump could win. The problem is that most people don't seem to understand basic principles of range of error, and how percentages work. Some of us understand these things and I always knew that there was a decent possibility that there could be a President Trump. That's why I began engaging in discussions in the political forum.
Clinton supporters were overconfident, but that says nothing about the actual polls. Even if the polls said that Candidate Trump had 1% chance of winning, then Trump would win 1 out of 100 times and the poll would not be wrong. If the polls said that Candidate Trump had 25% chance to win, then he would win one out of four times.
What you should be saying is that many pundits were wrong, but that's usually the case. Moreover, there were plenty of people, pundits, and commentators warning that Clinton's win was not assured.
We have been asked not to use disparaging labels for political figures.
It would be nice if you were not so childish about your political opponents.
Well Trump is not "hard core conservative" by any historical definition. He is a populist. The wave that many Republicans are riding is a populist wave, not a historical conservative wave. Fortunately, that populist wave is breaking and will dissipate with President Trump's presidency. I suspect that the Republican Party, as an institution, will not survive. Many of the core principles of the Republican Party have already been jettisoned, so they are already lost.
You making stuff up in your head again. Show me where I said I hated Fox or Breitbart.
I do not find them unbiased. That is all.
I don't know why I explain this to you. You will promptly forget it and go back to your default mode of calling anyone that doesn't fall in line with Trumpism as a liberal.
I don't like "conservative" or "liberal" sites. Whenever possible I prefer to watch C-SPAN, but it's very time consuming. I will catch up on important C-SPAN stuff on YouTube.
I get a lot of news on my phone from the Associated Press RSS feeds. Also Reuters RSS feeds. Also Axios feeds.
I do check Drudge Report a couple times a week. I read the Minneapolis StarTribune because it's my local paper but I'm aware it's a liberal slant (used to be very liberal but there is signs of a slight edge towards sensibility).
Conservative sites I sometimes read--Powerline, Weekly Standard, Daily Wire, Washington Times. Wall Street Journal when it was free, but no longer now that it's a paid subscription. I will pick and choose articles on Real Clear Politics by conservatives.
Liberal sites I sometimes read--WaPo (though less and less). Wherever Google News feed takes me. I avoid NYTimes and CNN. SImilarly the big three networks, CBS, ABC, NBC are practically worthless.
The way the GOP is refusing to lift a finger to do any work, I think that a year from now Trump could be in serious trouble as the Democrats will certainly impeach and convict him if they ever get control of both chambers of Congress again. Now the Washington Post is accusing Judge Moore of sexual crimes--in reference to the comments about Alabama above. Of course, the NYT said that McCain had a girl friend but it turned out that not only did he not have a girl friend but he also did not have a clue.
The Breitbart article was more opinion than news, just their speculation as to why Gillepsie lost - it's analysis and that's all it is. Most of it is probably right, I'd like to add that Ralph being a veteran and having a calm personality helped in a lot of those parts of Virginia.
WaPo is behind a hard paywall for me, so I hardly go there anymore. The polls did nail the popular vote in the general election last year, so what? What you have to do is go state by state, figure their popular vote and convert that into electoral votes, not so easy.
And the polls here were off again : RealClearPolitics - Election 2017 - Virginia Governor - Gillespie vs. Northam
Ralph won by more than that - this is sort of the opposite of what happened two years ago but this still tells me the state polling there is awful as usual. The pollsters nailed it in NJ, though.
I think that is their end-game, to take control of both chambers to get rid of Trump but that is a pipe dream. First off, they may not get the House and have an almost impossible task to get the Senate, and even then, impeachment backlash will scare them off. Only the most partisan want to impeach because of policy. Why don't you look and see what happened just six years ago - Obama's party got slaughtered in the mid-terms, "a referendum on Obama", then he sailed to victory two years later.
WaPo is behind a hard paywall for me, so I hardly go there anymore. The polls did nail the popular vote in the general election last year, so what? What you have to do is go state by state, figure their popular vote and convert that into electoral votes, not so easy.
And the polls here were off again : RealClearPolitics - Election 2017 - Virginia Governor - Gillespie vs. Northam
Ralph won by more than that - this is sort of the opposite of what happened two years ago but this still tells me the state polling there is awful as usual. The pollsters nailed it in NJ, though.
I think that is their end-game, to take control of both chambers to get rid of Trump but that is a pipe dream. First off, they may not get the House and have an almost impossible task to get the Senate, and even then, impeachment backlash will scare them off. Only the most partisan want to impeach because of policy. Why don't you look and see what happened just six years ago - Obama's party got slaughtered in the mid-terms, "a referendum on Obama", then he sailed to victory two years later.
Trump made Pence, who may not have been re-elected Governor of Indiana. Look for Pence to be dumped in 2020.
There is no legitimate reason to impeach trump. Trying to do so is unAmerican as it is an attempt to override the will of the people.
So what else is new re: the whining left?