I would see the scriptures indicating that there were and shall be many antichrists, such as in the Maccabees rebellion, Rome, Hitler etc. but there shall be a final one yet to come.
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Antichrist?
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1689Dave
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I think the Papacy might make a comeback. And Islam was always in their sight as one of the two horns of Antichrist.
Islam According to the Reformers - Reformation Society
Either one would qualify as being a false religion, that has power over people...
Hush Whisper
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I see many conversations on who the antichrist is.
What difference would it make if you knew? (please respond, I really want opinions on this).
What difference would it make if you knew? (please respond, I really want opinions on this).
Hush Whisper
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When You and Me stand before Him, He will say to one of us "Depart accursed I knew you not".
~I'm okay with that and will not argue over it.
~I'm okay with that and will not argue over it.
Hello Dave,
The Mark of the Beast is the anti-Shema. Shema is basically the prayer "I love God with all my heart, soul, and mind." Deuteronomy discusses how it should be placed on the forehead and hand. The anti-Shema is basically saying that Nero or Domitian was requiring that everyone publicly required to proclaim that they were gods. Basically, one way to root out Christians was to force Christians to perform Cesar worship.
Now, the mark of the beast is not necessarily the gay marriage thing in my opinion, although I do wonder why we need the government to be involved in marriages in the first place. Remember that Jesus did meet the Roman soldiers who asked what they should do. Jesus didn't say they should disobey their commanders when things got dicey. And I'm sure Romans soldiers were told to do a lot of things which were far from "good". That being said, I would try to avoid jobs which caused me discomfort like serving wedding cakes at a homosexual wedding.
I also have a problem with the Pledge of Allegiance because my allegiance is not really to the U.S., it's to Jesus. But I still do it because it is part of my job. They aren't making me say that the U.S. should be worshipped. The "under God" clause makes the entire thing far more palatable.
For my opinion, it's clear that the number 666 was clearly referring to Nero or Domitian (Nero's "reincarnation"). This was a circular letter to 7 churches. As such, it may have been intercepted. John used imagery quite a bit to hide certain things which could be used against the Church by the Roman authorities. Calling the leader of the Roman Empire a man doing evil things who was only the puppet of the Devil would definitely be used against Christians. 666 is the transliteration in Hebrew. Greek writers changed it to 616, which is the transliteration for Greek.
An antichrist is anyone who denies the Jesus Christ, either his divinity, humanity, or the other aspects of Jesus. They oppose Christ. John mentions this both in First and Second John.
For example, George W. Bush might be considered an antichrist for saying that Christians and Muslims worship the same god. Of course, he's likely just ignorant of what Muslims believe. So, I won't judge him. I only remember him saying it once.
The Antichrist is obviously Satan.
But all recent Presidents and most politicians have denied that Jesus is the true Messiah. Most like to say that there are many ways to heaven and no ones knows which religion is right one. They deny Jesus. John would call these people antichrists. Now antichrists can still repent and become Christians. The most famous of these was Saul/Paul.
If the Mark is coming back soon, it will probably be to requirement that Christians can't say Jesus is the true Messiah and the other paths lead to Hell. You already see some of these restrictions on the proclamation of Jesus in England, Canada, and Australia.
I don't claim to be perfect and I don't know if I'm inspired by God. So, If you think I made a mistake please point it out. I'd love to learn more.
Marty
The Mark of the Beast is the anti-Shema. Shema is basically the prayer "I love God with all my heart, soul, and mind." Deuteronomy discusses how it should be placed on the forehead and hand. The anti-Shema is basically saying that Nero or Domitian was requiring that everyone publicly required to proclaim that they were gods. Basically, one way to root out Christians was to force Christians to perform Cesar worship.
Now, the mark of the beast is not necessarily the gay marriage thing in my opinion, although I do wonder why we need the government to be involved in marriages in the first place. Remember that Jesus did meet the Roman soldiers who asked what they should do. Jesus didn't say they should disobey their commanders when things got dicey. And I'm sure Romans soldiers were told to do a lot of things which were far from "good". That being said, I would try to avoid jobs which caused me discomfort like serving wedding cakes at a homosexual wedding.
I also have a problem with the Pledge of Allegiance because my allegiance is not really to the U.S., it's to Jesus. But I still do it because it is part of my job. They aren't making me say that the U.S. should be worshipped. The "under God" clause makes the entire thing far more palatable.
For my opinion, it's clear that the number 666 was clearly referring to Nero or Domitian (Nero's "reincarnation"). This was a circular letter to 7 churches. As such, it may have been intercepted. John used imagery quite a bit to hide certain things which could be used against the Church by the Roman authorities. Calling the leader of the Roman Empire a man doing evil things who was only the puppet of the Devil would definitely be used against Christians. 666 is the transliteration in Hebrew. Greek writers changed it to 616, which is the transliteration for Greek.
An antichrist is anyone who denies the Jesus Christ, either his divinity, humanity, or the other aspects of Jesus. They oppose Christ. John mentions this both in First and Second John.
For example, George W. Bush might be considered an antichrist for saying that Christians and Muslims worship the same god. Of course, he's likely just ignorant of what Muslims believe. So, I won't judge him. I only remember him saying it once.
The Antichrist is obviously Satan.
But all recent Presidents and most politicians have denied that Jesus is the true Messiah. Most like to say that there are many ways to heaven and no ones knows which religion is right one. They deny Jesus. John would call these people antichrists. Now antichrists can still repent and become Christians. The most famous of these was Saul/Paul.
If the Mark is coming back soon, it will probably be to requirement that Christians can't say Jesus is the true Messiah and the other paths lead to Hell. You already see some of these restrictions on the proclamation of Jesus in England, Canada, and Australia.
I don't claim to be perfect and I don't know if I'm inspired by God. So, If you think I made a mistake please point it out. I'd love to learn more.
Marty
1689Dave
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Interesting. I can also see that if we consider the human body as the temple of God, then Antichrist occupies the temple of God in all who place sinful laws above God’s laws. So I see major culprits in history, Nero, the Papacy, and even present day Islam fulfilling the same role. Many look for the symbols John used to describe the Beast and they are still waiting. But if we look for what the symbols depict, we clearly see this evil throughout history. And we have guidelines for what to expect as well.
I believe the Papacy whose deadly wound was healed in 1928 (google it) will make a comeback as well as Islam, also identified as antichrist by Calvin and Luther. The influx of Catholics into the US from south of the border might play into this as well.
the mark of the beast will be something that has one marked to be in alliange to the final Antichrist!
Scripture is clear that the mark is a literal thing that is forced onto the forehead or the right hand of nearly everyone (small and great, rich and poor, free and bond), and that without this mark (or the name or number of the beast) it will become impossible for a man to buy or sell.
That's some very specific detail, and technology already exists now to make this entirely feasible with a little further development, and a little evolution in retail and banking standards. Some humans already have RFID chips embedded in their hands that let them unlock their doors, cars, etc., and retailers and manufacturers are already looking to RFID technology to make retail purchases faster and more secure by embedding the chips in goods. Back to the embedding in humans (which as I said is already happening on a smaller scale), RFID technology also shows great promise for making currency more secure, since a small chip in a person's body can serve as a tiny credit card that is difficult to steal or counterfeit.
Help me understand what evidence you see in scripture that makes you think the mark of the beast should be interpreted metaphorically?
That's some very specific detail, and technology already exists now to make this entirely feasible with a little further development, and a little evolution in retail and banking standards. Some humans already have RFID chips embedded in their hands that let them unlock their doors, cars, etc., and retailers and manufacturers are already looking to RFID technology to make retail purchases faster and more secure by embedding the chips in goods. Back to the embedding in humans (which as I said is already happening on a smaller scale), RFID technology also shows great promise for making currency more secure, since a small chip in a person's body can serve as a tiny credit card that is difficult to steal or counterfeit.
Help me understand what evidence you see in scripture that makes you think the mark of the beast should be interpreted metaphorically?
It has to be something physical, as that will be an obvious sign that one follows Antichrist as their lord!
1689Dave
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If Antichrist grabs you and brands you with a 666 against your will, did you receive the mark of the Beast? Of course not. So the mark is not external or literal, it is internal, an attitude of allegiance to Antichrist's principles. And many had it for centuries as well as today.
The mark will one an external sign that will be voluntarily taken!
1689Dave
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If so, the believers will have the Lamb's name written in their foreheads too. If you look for the symbols to appear, they never will, anymore than red dragons floating around in outer space. But if you look for what the dragon and the Mark represent, they have been with us a long time now with more to come.
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Hush Whisper
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It's a airborne delivered "VIRUS". (place 3 6's in a CIRCLE and you have a virus warning symbol.
It will come from chem trails.
It will land on your head or hand.
No matter who you are at that time, you'll receive it.
This will sift the chaff from the wheat.
The "few" millions who die from it, were just "raptured" and met Jesus.
The "many" who "lived" can now still sell and buy.
The "VIRUS" does 3 main things.
1. It will CURE all DISEASES.
2. It won't let you die.
3. It will NOT allow "PAIN" to leave your body.
Thou your cured from all Diseases, any pains you incur after you receive the mark will never go away.
This is the "time period" of the GREAT DECEPTION, where you will wish the "mountains to fall on you".
They give you this Global Cure/Lie, because of the future coming Global Event of the rock, that is approaching from the west.
Again. NASA starts Armageddon= BOW (Send it), SWORD (Strike it), SCALE (Split it), FIRE (Sear it) = NASA sends rocket. Rocket strikes rock. Rock splits. Split piece sends towards Indonesia and strikes the Pacific Plate. Plate splits and rocks up and down like a set of scales (weighing out God's Wrath). This rocking up and down causes the "Fire Ring's Volcanoes", to Send Lava to Strike and Split the SKIES...and it will RAIN down FIRE and Brimstone all Around the Pacific Plate/Fire Ring.
It will come from chem trails.
It will land on your head or hand.
No matter who you are at that time, you'll receive it.
This will sift the chaff from the wheat.
The "few" millions who die from it, were just "raptured" and met Jesus.
The "many" who "lived" can now still sell and buy.
The "VIRUS" does 3 main things.
1. It will CURE all DISEASES.
2. It won't let you die.
3. It will NOT allow "PAIN" to leave your body.
Thou your cured from all Diseases, any pains you incur after you receive the mark will never go away.
This is the "time period" of the GREAT DECEPTION, where you will wish the "mountains to fall on you".
They give you this Global Cure/Lie, because of the future coming Global Event of the rock, that is approaching from the west.
Again. NASA starts Armageddon= BOW (Send it), SWORD (Strike it), SCALE (Split it), FIRE (Sear it) = NASA sends rocket. Rocket strikes rock. Rock splits. Split piece sends towards Indonesia and strikes the Pacific Plate. Plate splits and rocks up and down like a set of scales (weighing out God's Wrath). This rocking up and down causes the "Fire Ring's Volcanoes", to Send Lava to Strike and Split the SKIES...and it will RAIN down FIRE and Brimstone all Around the Pacific Plate/Fire Ring.
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Hush Whisper
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If you see everyone die around you and you live thru it. You just found out who you serve.
2 K/kings are coming. To claim what belongs to them, they're Chests. Some Chests have light and some are dark.
They know who serves them...I hope you do.
Its time as followers of Jesus to stand up and be true to what we claim to be and if you don't know what that is, then He (Jesus)
don't know you.
Go out and tell the World the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus. Time is short.
~we're going Home!
2 K/kings are coming. To claim what belongs to them, they're Chests. Some Chests have light and some are dark.
They know who serves them...I hope you do.
Its time as followers of Jesus to stand up and be true to what we claim to be and if you don't know what that is, then He (Jesus)
don't know you.
Go out and tell the World the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus. Time is short.
~we're going Home!
Hush Whisper
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I see references to 'How the followers of Jesus are sealed (from the Mark and future events).
I will tell you what "your" seal is and how to even prove it.
The SEAL can be found in your BLOOD.
Specifically Chromosome 7 lamb1.
When any person "repents" to Jesus (God's only Son, not God), Jesus listens to this "repentance" with anxiousness and love on His part.
If He "believes" you, He SENDS His Father's Holy Spirit (The FATHER'S LIGHT/HOLY SPIRIT) to STRIKE and SPLIT your SOUL to IGNITE A FIRE WITHIN IT.
Together your made a NEW CREATURE in THEM (God, the FATHER. Jesus HIS SON and the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD HIMSELF). You become 1 with THEM.
When, that happens your Chromosome 7 lamb1 is altered/changed.
This is why the "Virus" I mentioned above, kills ONLY the followers of Jesus..because the virus tries to change Chromosome 7 lamb1 AGAIN..and it kills Us.
If you were to right now, compare a "born again" person with "a person who is not", You'd find a DIFFERENCE in their Chromosome 7 lamb1.
I will tell you what "your" seal is and how to even prove it.
The SEAL can be found in your BLOOD.
Specifically Chromosome 7 lamb1.
When any person "repents" to Jesus (God's only Son, not God), Jesus listens to this "repentance" with anxiousness and love on His part.
If He "believes" you, He SENDS His Father's Holy Spirit (The FATHER'S LIGHT/HOLY SPIRIT) to STRIKE and SPLIT your SOUL to IGNITE A FIRE WITHIN IT.
Together your made a NEW CREATURE in THEM (God, the FATHER. Jesus HIS SON and the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD HIMSELF). You become 1 with THEM.
When, that happens your Chromosome 7 lamb1 is altered/changed.
This is why the "Virus" I mentioned above, kills ONLY the followers of Jesus..because the virus tries to change Chromosome 7 lamb1 AGAIN..and it kills Us.
If you were to right now, compare a "born again" person with "a person who is not", You'd find a DIFFERENCE in their Chromosome 7 lamb1.
Sometimes you have to hear different viewpoints until you can comprehend and understand what you really believe... Brother Glen
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Hush Whisper
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Repent world, the KINGDOM of God is at > HAND. (Armageddon- Arm Age DONE!)
If you live near the Pacific Plate- you need to move.
If you live near the Pacific Plate- you need to move.
Hush Whisper
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When God's HOLY SPIRIT leaves this PLANET (those raptured), this PLANET WILL NO LONGER BE PROTECTED. WE are God's RIGHT HAND, when it/Hand leaves (see Note, below), it's protection leaves with it.
So if your wondering, if per-tribulation is true or not. I'll tell you.
It is. God's Spirit is removed BEFORE--------> ARMAGEDDON
Then all HELL BREAKS LOSE.
Note: If you seen my video in another thread here (under the creation topics, you'll understand what I'm about to say better) you'll see a Large Image of God's Hand (Indonesia). This is where the "Rock" I mentioned above is going to Hit. It will wipe out Indonesia (God's Hand in another sense leaves this planet).
You need to listen to me. We really are going Home. The question is.. who are YOU going to take with YOU??
So if your wondering, if per-tribulation is true or not. I'll tell you.
It is. God's Spirit is removed BEFORE--------> ARMAGEDDON
Then all HELL BREAKS LOSE.
Note: If you seen my video in another thread here (under the creation topics, you'll understand what I'm about to say better) you'll see a Large Image of God's Hand (Indonesia). This is where the "Rock" I mentioned above is going to Hit. It will wipe out Indonesia (God's Hand in another sense leaves this planet).
You need to listen to me. We really are going Home. The question is.. who are YOU going to take with YOU??
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