ANY Ever hear of A "partial rapture" Theory?

[JesusFan]

that jesus will be ONLY rapturing out of the World those saints who are Spirit filled/walking with God, while those who are carnal/luke warm get "left behind" to have the tribulation "fire them up" for God?

 

[gb93433]

Sounds like purgatory.

 

[jbh28]

Every time I hear it, it sounds like we only go part way up. Maybe that would be progressive rapture.

 

[Van]

Typical invitation to speculation. The Bible is clear. If you are saved, you are sealed with the Holy Spirit and will be raptured. Nothing about earning rapture by walking with the Lord.

 

[JesusFan]

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QUOTE=jbh28;1732334]Every time I hear it, it sounds like we only go part way up. Maybe that would be progressive rapture. [/QUOTE

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maybe those here holding to more of a "Lordship" salvation process might find themselves in ageement with this position though?

 

[Tom Butler]

I've heard of the partial rapture theory, but I don't know anybody who holds that view. Do any of you here on the Baptist Board know anybody who does?

And Jesus Fan, I don't there's any correlation between Lordship Salvation and the PR theory.

 

[mandym]

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maybe those here holding to more of a "Lordship" salvation process might find themselves in ageement with this position though?

I don't agree with such silliness.

 

[Sapper Woody]

I know of one person who claims that he has been given a revelation from God that he will be staying here when the rapture happens, so that he may help out the two preachers in the tribulation.

Keep in mind that this is not my personal belief, just what he says.

 

[Pastor_Bob]

that jesus will be ONLY rapturing out of the World those saints who are Spirit filled/walking with God, while those who are carnal/luke warm get "left behind" to have the tribulation "fire them up" for God?

I've not heard of this particular belief. I have heard of a Baptist Bride position and also a millennial exclusion belief for lukewarm Christians who have not accomplished enough good works. I completely disagree with both positions.

 

[Tom Bryant]

I've not heard of this particular belief. I have heard of a Baptist Bride position and also a millennial exclusion belief for lukewarm Christians who have not accomplished enough good works. I completely disagree with both positions.

The Baptist Bride position is the only one I've heard preached. But that's been a while. Like you, I disagree with it.

 

[JesusFan]

I've heard of the partial rapture theory, but I don't know anybody who holds that view. Do any of you here on the Baptist Board know anybody who does?

And Jesus Fan, I don't there's any correlation between Lordship Salvation and the PR theory.[/QUOTE

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Just stating that IF one takes that position to its 'strictly logically" conclusion... as some have said who hold to it"IF jesus is NOT Lord over ALL, he is Lord over NONE"

That view would make secuity/assurance dubious, so would seem to fit into thinking that those who have made "best efforts" to make Lord over their lives by getting included in the rapture, while God would allow others to stay here and "get serious" about their walk with God!

 

[righteousdude2]

Sounds Like the Persons Who Believe This ....

.... need to complete their study of the Word. If this is a possibility, then I pray I'm in the first group to go, as I don't want to be here when all hell breaks out. :tear:

 

[beameup]

that jesus will be ONLY rapturing out of the World those saints who are Spirit filled/walking with God, while those who are carnal/luke warm get "left behind" to have the tribulation "fire them up" for God?

To follow the logic: the bride of Christ will be cut in two. Half of the bride will go to the wedding while the other half of the bride will be tortured and punished.
What's wrong with this "picture"?

 

[InTheLight]

that jesus will be ONLY rapturing out of the World those saints who are Spirit filled/walking with God, while those who are carnal/luke warm get "left behind" to have the tribulation "fire them up" for God?

So now God is picking and choosing people for the rapture? I think this is taking the doctrine of election just a wee bit too far, IMO. :laugh:

 

[Aaron]

that jesus will be ONLY rapturing out of the World those saints who are Spirit filled/walking with God, while those who are carnal/luke warm get "left behind" to have the tribulation "fire them up" for God?

Yes, I've heard this, as well as multiple variations on the topic. Now that your church is essentially Pentecostal, you're going to witness a lot more silliness. Shoot, in ten years if the Lord tarries and the U.S. is still around, you'll have a fairly large repertoir of strange, unusual and entertaining stories to tell. :type:

 

[Pastor_Bob]

...if the Lord tarries...

I've heard this phrase my whole life and have come to the conclusion that Jesus will not tarry His coming in any way. When His Father gives Him the word, He will come for His bride immediately.

Hebrews 10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. (KJV)

 

[Van]

Reply to Pastor Bob,

I've heard this phrase my whole life and have come to the conclusion that Jesus will not tarry His coming in any way. When His Father gives Him the word, He will come for His bride immediately.

Hebrews 10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. (KJV)

I think we have at least three issues in view here. (1) We are to live as if Christ's return is immanent. (2) But we are to make use of the time we are given to serve the Lord. And (3) rather than grumble about why He has not come yet, we are to work hard to "hasten the day."

So the question that arises is how would evangelical ministry "hasten the day?" If we accept the Calvinistic view that everyone has already been selected then the day when all have been saved is a fixed future appointed time. Our efforts would not hasten it. Thus yet another verse indicating the Calvinistic view misses the mark.

"Tarry" conveys the idea that a person has a job to do and is not doing it, whereas delay might be viewed as waiting patiently for our evangelical ministry to fulfill its purpose.

Hab. 2:3, Hebrews 10:37, Rom. 9:22-24, 1 Cor. 1:7, 2 Peter 3:12

 

[JesusFan]

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QUOTE=Aaron;1733195]Yes, I've heard this, as well as multiple variations on the topic. Now that your church is essentially Pentecostal, you're going to witness a lot more silliness. Shoot, in ten years if the Lord tarries and the U.S. is still around, you'll have a fairly large repertoir of strange, unusual and entertaining stories to tell. :type:

[/QUOTE]

The BB is misunderstand me on this OP!

NOT saying that I or my Church hold to that, just IF any here on the BB either heard to or hold to it!

My pastor holds to "historica;" pre Mil, while majority of Us hold to the pre trib pre mil version!

 

[JesusFan]

I've heard this phrase my whole life and have come to the conclusion that Jesus will not tarry His coming in any way. When His Father gives Him the word, He will come for His bride immediately.

Hebrews 10:37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. (KJV)

isn't jesus being held in the heavens until either "The Fulness of the gentiles" comes to pass, and God turns back to dealing with Isrealdirectly, OR until the last person saved before His coming gets recorded?

 

[Pastor_Bob]

isn't jesus being held in the heavens until either "The Fulness of the gentiles" comes to pass, and God turns back to dealing with Isrealdirectly, OR until the last person saved before His coming gets recorded?

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. (KJV)

I do not believe that Jesus is being "held" in heaven at all. He is seated at the Father's right hand making intercession for the saints and is simply awaiting His Father's word to go claim His bride. I do not think Jesus is being restrained in any way; after all, He came to do the will of His Father. This hasn't changed now that He's in heaven with His Father.