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Anyone here a fan of Star Trek?

alexander284

alexander284

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InTheLight said:
I did enjoy Firefly, but it was mostly "pirates in space" or "con men on the run" and not so much sci-fi.



Yes, it was great. I saw the episode free on Pluto TV. I might have to pick up CBS All Access to watch the rest of the series.
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Yes, signed up for CBS All Access for Picard (and Blue Bloods).
 
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InTheLight said:
I'm old enough to have watched the original series on TV when I was a kid. I loved that show.

Then the first movie came out and it was kind of a letdown. Looked great, but the pacing was glacial slow. The next several movies were really good, "Wrath of Khan", "Search for Spock", "The Voyage Home". Then the quality of the scripts started nosediving.

I don't understand the praise for the TV series, Star Trek: The Next Generation. Almost all stories had a heavy-handed moral message, usually politically correct, which I referred to as "Star Trek Church" because it was basically a sermon on humanism. Other things wrong with TNG were the constant relying on Wesley as the hero (esp. in Season 1), the overuse of the holodeck as a Macguffin, and too many stories based on the magical powers of Q. Capt. Jean-Luc Picard was too timid, and favored diplomacy over action. That doesn't lend itself well for an action-based TV show.

Though watchable, TNG is overrated, IMO.

Star Trek Deep Space 9 was actually a worthy follow-on series. I watched it through about S5, I believe. Though the scope of the stories were somewhat hampered by them being (mostly) set in the same permanent space port, there was a lot of action, political intrigue, interesting characters, and an overarching plot of the war between the Cardassians and the Bajorans. There were consequences for the actions the characters took and they were complex.

Star Trek Voyager just shouldn't have been made. I thought it was terrible.

Though I liked Captain Archer's character Star Trek: Enterprise should never have seen the light of day. I give it high marks for the best opening and theme song montage in the canon.

Star Trek: Discovery. I don't know enough about it. I saw the first three episodes and then dropped it. It was changing the entire backstory of TOS and I didn't like that. At the time I quit watching it, they had just discovered they could instantly transport themselves across vast distances in space using some sort of plant-based DNA. The scientific hand-waving explaining this knocked over a La-Z-Boy recliner in my living room.
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The even number Star trek movies the best ones, and really did like the interplay between MR stiff and formal Picard and MR loose Q!
 
InTheLight

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Since I've got CBS All Access and since they have DS9 available, I picked up the series where I had left off, about mid way through S6. Here I encountered one of the most brazen examples of "Star Trek Church", which I describe as a sermonizing episode about humanistic values. The episode in question is "Far Beyond the Stars", episode 13 in season 6.

This is the definitive Star Trek anti-racial episode built on the flimsiest of premises. Captain Sisko finds himself hallucinating that he's a science fiction writer in New York City in 1953. That's right, he's dreaming (or having a vision.) I guess they didn't want to use the lazy writer's approach and fire up the holodeck this time.

He works for one of the pulp Sci-Fi magazines that churn out short stories and novellas for a monthly issue of the magazine. One of the illustrators has drawn a picture of a space station that looks eerily like Deep Space 9. Sisko, the writer, is inspired by the drawing and starts writing about the space station, using a black captain as the main character. He titles the story Deep Space Nine.

Everybody at the office loves his story, except the editor (played by Rene Auberjonois/Odo), who complains no one will believe a black man would ever be put in a position of authority, well, anywhere, much less on a space station! He decides the story's not going to get printed. One of the characters laughs off the story as "black man on the moon--never going to happen." Unbelievably, one of the characters uses the "N" word. The episode even has a senseless shooting of a young black man by two white cops. The same two white cops had previously beaten up Sisko earlier in the show, well, just because he's black.

The episode was directed by Avery Brooks, the actor that plays Captain Sisko. Apparently it was one of his pet projects. The sets and costume were excellent and it was fun seeing all the characters without their Star Trek uniforms and/or alien makeup. Worf shows up as a baseball player; Dax is the editor's secretary. Dr. Bashir, Chief O'Brien, Kira, and Quark are also writers at the magazine. I thought it kind of funny that Quark's human equivalent character was somewhat of a communist sympathizer, which is the furthest thing from the capitalistic Ferengi that he usually plays on the show. The production values were excellent, and the acting was very good, except for Brook's over emoting in the climatic scene.

I Googled the episode and it makes just about everybody's Top Ten list of episodes.
 
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InTheLight

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I was bowled over by the incredible awfulness of DS9 S06E23, "Profit and Lace". It is recognized as the worst episode of Deep Space Nine. I cannot disagree.

I won't go into details but for those of you that are curious the plot revolves around the ruler of the Ferengi granting their women the right to wear clothes. That's right, this alien race, the Ferengi, keeps their women at home and naked and prohibits them from having jobs or buying and selling goods and/or services. I presume the story was supposed to be a pro-feminist "Star Trek church" type sermon, but it turned into an unfunny farce with aliens in drag pretending to be females, overt misogynist references, chauvinistic female stereotypes, and unfunny slapstick. This story is far worse than TOS story, "Spock's Brain".
 
KenH

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I’ve watched every Star Trek series episode and movie(at least once) - except for the two series on CBS All-Access(and those are on my agenda).
 
alexander284

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KenH said:
I’ve watched every Star Trek series episode and movie(at least once) - except for the two series on CBS All-Access(and those are on my agenda).
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So ... which Star Trek series is your favorite? And which series is your least favorite?
 
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