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Arctic Sea Ice Freefall is Mirror Image of Carbon Dioxide Ascent

Crabtownboy

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Cause and effect.

The amount of Arctic sea ice has plummeted in recent decades bold manifestation of the rise in temperature resulting from the rapid increase in carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere. After staying below 300 parts per million (ppm) for some 800,000 years, the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere skyrocketed as humans started burning more and more fossil fuels. In 2013, atmospheric CO2 averaged 396 ppm. Carbon dioxide traps heat, reducing the amount escaping into space, thereby warming the globe. Together with other heat-trapping gases, the additional CO2 has so far raised the Earth temperature by 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century. The extra heat is melting snow and ice around the world, including Arctic sea ice, changing the face of the planet as we know it.

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Don

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http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/

Looks to me like 2013-2014 is about the same as 2011-2012; and well within the standard deviation for the period since 1981. The overall summary of the website is that Arctic ice is below normal, while Antarctic ice is above average.
 

padredurand

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It's been below zero for most of 10 days now. I think the ice will be back.

I did hear a feller on the TV say that the reason it was so cold is because it is getting so warm.

I try to watch my intake of stupid stuff like those folk who got their boat stuck in the ice that they went to prove wasn't there.
 

Crabtownboy

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It's been below zero for most of 10 days now. I think the ice will be back.

I did hear a feller on the TV say that the reason it was so cold is because it is getting so warm.

I try to watch my intake of stupid stuff like those folk who got their boat stuck in the ice that they went to prove wasn't there.

As I said in another post, local weather does not mean the whole world, else those living in Prague would say global warming is speeding up. They are having a very warm winter, so far, and some spring flowers are in bloom.

Don't let local conditions skew your view of what is going on worldwide.
 

padredurand

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As I said in another post, local weather does not mean the whole world, else those living in Prague would say global warming is speeding up. They are having a very warm winter, so far, and some spring flowers are in bloom.

Don't let local conditions skew your view of what is going on worldwide.

Local conditions? It snowed in South Texas. Here's some news from a little further south:

In Antarctica, sea ice extent has been well above average, setting record extents for both the summer minimum and winter maximum. For a long period over the winter and spring months, ice extent was at a record for the modern satellite era.
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Back in the 1970s we were told to watch for the coming ice age. Now the same folk are beating their drum about polar ice melting. They also happen to be the same folk who tell us most of the world was under ice a few million years ago. Doesn't that mean the ice has been retreating for a few million years?

Now you want to talk about some serious global warming consider this:

2 Peter 3:10-13
10But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
11 Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 1
2 looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with intense heat!
13 But according to His promise we are looking for new heavens and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.

That's God's doing not the result of spray cans and car exhaust.
 

padredurand

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Don't forget cow flatulence.

My bad. Forgot all about it. I was more concerned with the output from the male. :laugh:

I have no problem with sound stewardship but there is a big difference between tending to our natural surroundings and what passes as environmentalism - pantheism cloaked under the guise of passionate concern.

Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Romans 1:22-25 NAS77
 

Revmitchell

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My bad. Forgot all about it. I was more concerned with the output from the male. :laugh:

I have no problem with sound stewardship but there is a big difference between tending to our natural surroundings and what passes as environmentalism - pantheism cloaked under the guise of passionate concern.

Professing to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and crawling creatures. Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, that their bodies might be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Romans 1:22-25 NAS77

Liberal environmentalism is a religion.
 

Don

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As I said in another post, local weather does not mean the whole world, else those living in Prague would say global warming is speeding up. They are having a very warm winter, so far, and some spring flowers are in bloom.

Don't let local conditions skew your view of what is going on worldwide.

Which is why I used the arctic sea ice website to show that arftic sea ice is within standard deviation. But we don't want to discuss that, do we?
 

padredurand

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Which is why I used the arctic sea ice website to show that arftic sea ice is within standard deviation. But we don't want to discuss that, do we?

There you go again throwing facts into the mix. Just ain't fair doing that, Don. :wavey:
 

SolaSaint

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I heard there was this giant big fire ball in the sky that continues to burn day and night ever since the beginning of time. It is said to warm the Earth when it rotates to face the fire ball and it fluctuates in what is called solar flares. I think we need to try and send a space ship out and squirt some water on it to cool our planet. If we all can just get Owl Gore on board, he will spin it in our favor to get enough funds for the project. What say you?
 

church mouse guy

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I heard there was this giant big fire ball in the sky that continues to burn day and night ever since the beginning of time. It is said to warm the Earth when it rotates to face the fire ball and it fluctuates in what is called solar flares. I think we need to try and send a space ship out and squirt some water on it to cool our planet. If we all can just get Owl Gore on board, he will spin it in our favor to get enough funds for the project. What say you?

Be sure to go at night when it is not so hot. Another Maunder Minimum with the River Thames freezing in London would not persuade the people believing in global warming. They are now saying that dramatic changes are proof of global warming. The sleeping sun might be connected to these polar vortexes. I am wondering if California had drought in 1978 during the blizzard that hit that year in the Midwest?
 

Crabtownboy

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No global warming? Records show there is.

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How about carbon dioxide?

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Where does the carbon dioxide come from? No correlation?

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Be honest now.
 
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Revmitchell

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And some of the same knuckleheads that are crying global warming and C02 now were the same knuckleheads that were crying global cooling and the imminent ice age. Of course they had models to show that as well.


And just because someone makes a graph does not mean the info is credible. My grandma can make a graph.
 

Crabtownboy

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And just because someone makes a graph does not mean the info is credible. My grandma can make a graph.

So, you are one of those who say, "Don't confuse me with the facts, my mind is already made up."

If you take measurements and make a chart, how is that not meaningful. For instance, if you plot the money you spend and it is going up, doesn't that mean you are spending more. Or by your logic the chart lies. :laugh: and you say "some knucklehead just made up a chart".
 

sag38

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I am a five minute boat ride from Mobile Bay and a fifteen minute car ride to the Gulf of Mexico and there were icicles hanging from the eves of my house last night. Yep, global warming is really working well here according to bed wetter's logic.

Why is it that only extreme liberals buy into global warming.? I don't sense real science behind global warming. Instead there is an agenda, a political agenda designed to bring about a progressive utopia.
 

padredurand

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I am a five minute boat ride from Mobile Bay and a fifteen minute car ride to the Gulf of Mexico and there were icicles hanging from the eves of my house last night. Yep, global warming is really working well here according to bed wetter's logic.

Why is it that only extreme liberals buy into global warming.? I don't sense real science behind global warming. Instead there is an agenda, a political agenda designed to bring about a progressive utopia.

sag, sag, sag, my poor misguided sag. Don't you understand? The reason it is so cold in Mobile is that it is getting warmer. It ain't rocket science. If you are cold it is because you are warm. If it is warm HELLO! global WARMING.

It's the cow's fault. RevMitchell told me. He's an authority because he wrote it was cow gas. It's right here on the Internet. It has to be true. :tongue3:

He's right. Cows exist because we want cheeseburgers. Meat from beefers and cheese from the milkers. A cheeseburger isn't a cheeseburger until you have a bun. Buns come from wheat. Wheat comes from the ground that is fertilized by cow poop. Cows poop because we feed them corn that was intended to make ethanol. When cows poop they pass gas. Methane kills the ozone layer and voila! global warming.

Know where all that CO2 comes from? Farmers running tractors spreading manure. Spreading manure returns nutrients to the ground but it also causes runoff when it rains. Cow poop runoff in Iowa causes algae blooms in Japan. I read that on the Internet, too but Rev didn't write it. Algae blooms kill fish. When fish populations are down folks eat more beef. Vicious cycle ain't it!

Eating cheeseburgers causes global warming. :thumbs: You can quote me on that or plagiarize at will.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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sag, sag, sag, my poor misguided sag. Don't you understand? The reason it is so cold in Mobile is that it is getting warmer. It ain't rocket science. If you are cold it is because you are warm. If it is warm HELLO! global WARMING.

It's the cow's fault. RevMitchell told me. He's an authority because he wrote it was cow gas. It's right here on the Internet. It has to be true. :tongue3:

He's right. Cows exist because we want cheeseburgers. Meat from beefers and cheese from the milkers. A cheeseburger isn't a cheeseburger until you have a bun. Buns come from wheat. Wheat comes from the ground that is fertilized by cow poop. Cows poop because we feed them corn that was intended to make ethanol. When cows poop they pass gas. Methane kills the ozone layer and voila! global warming.

Know where all that CO2 comes from? Farmers running tractors spreading manure. Spreading manure returns nutrients to the ground but it also causes runoff when it rains. Cow poop runoff in Iowa causes algae blooms in Japan. I read that on the Internet, too but Rev didn't write it. Algae blooms kill fish. When fish populations are down folks eat more beef. Vicious cycle ain't it!

Eating cheeseburgers causes global warming. :thumbs: You can quote me on that or plagiarize at will.

So because I like fresh eggs in the morning & have several chickens in the backyard & they poop & I use the excrement to fertilize my garden, my lawn & several trees & shrubs then I am causing global warming? Or is chicken shite different from cow shite? Help me out here professor?
 
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