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Arctic Sea Ice Freefall is Mirror Image of Carbon Dioxide Ascent

padredurand

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So because I like fresh eggs in the morning & have several chickens in the backyard & they poop & I use the excrement to fertilize my garden, my lawn & several trees & shrubs then I am causing global warming? Or is chicken shite different from cow shite? Help me out here professor?

Your crime is the coop not the poop. You confine those poor creatures and eat their young. :laugh:
 

kyredneck

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Lol:

"..Apparently, man-made global warming has gotten so out of hand because of SUVs and coal-chugging global warming skeptics that even the biggest planet in our solar system – Jupiter – is being affected by our addiction to carbon pollution. And that follows the other solar effects of our dependence on fossil fuels, including Mars losing its polar ice cap (what will Martian polar bears do now?), Neptune changing its reflectivity, Neptune’s moon Triton increasing in temperature by a whopping 5% due to the American energy-intensive lifestyle, and Pluto’s atmospheric pressure tripling due to higher temperatures because of Bushitler. From Yahoo! News via American Thinker: Jupiter Has Lost a Cloud Stripe, New Photos Reveal..."

Extraterrestrial Global Warming

The Whole Solar System is Undergoing Global Warming
 
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quantumfaith

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It's been below zero for most of 10 days now. I think the ice will be back.

I did hear a feller on the TV say that the reason it was so cold is because it is getting so warm.

I try to watch my intake of stupid stuff like those folk who got their boat stuck in the ice that they went to prove wasn't there.

Yes I also heard the following as the logic of the left:

It is colder because it is getting warmer, and the economy is stronger because so many are out of work. :)
 

quantumfaith

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I will say, I think the whole thing of global warming (climate change) is blown way out of proportion. But we as believers should also not permit the "left" to capitalize on and own the issue of stewardship of our planet and resources. I think, even disagreeing passionately with "global warming" we should at least recognize that we do many less than helpful things to our environment and we often pay the price for it. We should be vanguards in honesty and intellectual curiosity to find beneficial, efficient and economical means for providing for our energy and transportation needs. I sincerely hope that some conservative leadership in the coming years will articulate this and move us toward that end.
 

Revmitchell

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I will say, I think the whole thing of global warming (climate change) is blown way out of proportion. But we as believers should also not permit the "left" to capitalize on and own the issue of stewardship of our planet and resources. I think, even disagreeing passionately with "global warming" we should at least recognize that we do many less than helpful things to our environment and we often pay the price for it. We should be vanguards in honesty and intellectual curiosity to find beneficial, efficient and economical means for providing for our energy and transportation needs. I sincerely hope that some conservative leadership in the coming years will articulate this and move us toward that end.

You need to understand that global warming is not just about the temperature of the earth and who caused it. It is about gaining control of people and a Marxist agenda. It is about redistributing American wealth to undeveloped countries to keep them from industrializing themselves. It is about far more than just the temperature of the earth.
 

Crabtownboy

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You need to understand that global warming is not just about the temperature of the earth and who caused it. It is about gaining control of people and a Marxist agenda. It is about redistributing American wealth to undeveloped countries to keep them from industrializing themselves. It is about far more than just the temperature of the earth.

I will be kind and just say the Luddites were wrong also.
 

padredurand

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I will be kind and just say the Luddites were wrong also.

LUDDITE (adj): one of a group of early 19th century English workmen destroying laborsaving machinery as a protest; broadly : one who is opposed to especially technological change.

What does opposition to technology have to do with the false religion of global warming?

"Current greenhouse gas concentrations are probably similar to those that occurred three million years ago and are high enough to prevent an ice age for hundreds of thousands of years," said Lorraine Lisieck, a prehistoric climate expert from the University of California, Santa Barbara. Source

So, here we are 3 million years later.... :BangHead: Some scientists think we are only 10,000 years away from another ice age. I hate scraping ice of the windshield so it looks like I need to move south. Looks like the home farm will be under a sheet of permanent ice - again. That blue arrow all the way to the right is pointed right at my house! :eek:

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SolaSaint

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If you follow the money it will lead to the whacky acting lefties who scream at us about Global Warming. Most of these who have falsified numbers to make their agenda work are creating job security or even worse gaining wealth like Al Gore by promoting carbon credit legislation. If Al Gore really was worried about Global Warming he would be like many of the activists and stop driving a car, have solar, wind and geothermal power at his many residents. But no we don't see that. Such hypocrisy.
 

church mouse guy

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"America is set for the coldest month of the century as weather forecasters predict yet another freezing blast of Arctic air - putting Super Bowl Sunday in jeopardy."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2545153/U-S-braces-coldest-month-century.html

Coldest month of the century, record snowfall in Indianapolis, polar vortex after polar vortex--someone needs to do a study of the relationship between solar flares and temperature. Right now the sun is asleep--no activity.
 

sag38

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Snow and freezing rain is in the forecast for Tuesday along the Gulf Coast. Here's the deal. These occurrences are nothing new. There have been snows in the past and even freezing rain along the Gulf Coast. It has been happening well before any of us were born. These occurrences come in cycles. The drought on the West Coast is nothing new either. It is not caused by global warming. It is caused by the location of the jet stream. Hurricanes are no worse or better this century. They come and go in cycles too just as they have long before any of us were born. Only idiot bed wetting liberals want to attach "global warming" to any act of nature be it hot or cold. After all, they have an agenda promote.
 

Revmitchell

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LUDDITE (adj): one of a group of early 19th century English workmen destroying laborsaving machinery as a protest; broadly : one who is opposed to especially technological change.

What does opposition to technology have to do with the false religion of global warming?



So, here we are 3 million years later.... :BangHead: Some scientists think we are only 10,000 years away from another ice age. I hate scraping ice of the windshield so it looks like I need to move south. Looks like the home farm will be under a sheet of permanent ice - again. That blue arrow all the way to the right is pointed right at my house! :eek:

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Padre I get a sense from your posts that you are not taking this thing seriously. Come on now, the earth will burn up soon and we will all be country fried.
 

Bro. James

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Cause and effect.


Al Gore's ancestors were measuring CO2 levels 800,000 years ago?

Curious: history of man goes back only 5-6 thousand years.

Something is not making sense. Maybe it was aliens.

Re: CO2 levels around Mauna Loa--might be higher, the temperature too--this is an active volcano.

Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

Bro. James
 
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Crabby has quoted charts widely used by the Global Warming enthusiasts, and he is partially correct. There is a connection between CO2 levels in the atmosphere and global temperature. Using ice core samples we can estimate the CO2 level and global temperature going back 400,000 years and the correlation is undeniable. Here is a chart that shows that:


But what the global warming community choses to ignore is that correlation does not mean cause and effect. In the case of CO2 and temperature it may well be the opposite.

See this article:

http://www.skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm

That looks at the data and sees the correlation, but also the lag. You see when global temperatures rise, there is a rise in CO2 levels, but it usually follows anywhere from 200 to 1000 years later. The global warming is the cause of the CO2 increase not the effect.

The other obvious thing to notice from the graph is that both CO2 levels and global temperatures have moved up and down a lot. And without input from man.
 

padredurand

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Padre I get a sense from your posts that you are not taking this thing seriously. Come on now, the earth will burn up soon and we will all be country fried.

Seriously? You're the one that brought cow flatulence into the conversation. I'm as serious as a metric screwdriver. :thumbsup: We're going to have another ice age in 10,000 to 400,000 and Walmart is out of ice melt. Personally, I believe this to be an conspiracy by Goldman-Sachs and Monsanto to control right wing mobility in inclement weather.
 
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Bro. James

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Estimates from 800,000 now 400,000 years using ice samples--what is the systematic error of this measurement system? What are the assumptions in the equation regarding constants? How would this measurement system compare to something like carbon dating?

One more question: What would a world-wide flood do to the ice stratification and resulting data taken there from?

Bro. James
 

shodan

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Frion the original post: '...raised the Earth temperature by 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century "

The alternative to the temperature rising would have been to remain in the LIttle Ice Age which petered out in the 19th C. member Washington's hard winter at Valley Forge? The Themes freezing over and London ice fairs?
Neither do I but history shows us the hardships of col. Pray for Global Warming and more plant food (C02).

While CO2 has continued to rise (now at 400 ppm) there has been no statistically significant change int the global mean temperature anomaly for 17 years. http://www.thegwpf.org/nasa-noaa-confirm-global-temperature-standstill-continues/

And as was once standard textbook knowledge, the main factor in the fluctuations in the amount of Arctic ice is the winds.
 

church mouse guy

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Lol:

"..Apparently, man-made global warming has gotten so out of hand because of SUVs and coal-chugging global warming skeptics that even the biggest planet in our solar system – Jupiter – is being affected by our addiction to carbon pollution. And that follows the other solar effects of our dependence on fossil fuels, including Mars losing its polar ice cap (what will Martian polar bears do now?), Neptune changing its reflectivity, Neptune’s moon Triton increasing in temperature by a whopping 5% due to the American energy-intensive lifestyle, and Pluto’s atmospheric pressure tripling due to higher temperatures because of Bushitler. From Yahoo! News via American Thinker: Jupiter Has Lost a Cloud Stripe, New Photos Reveal..."

Extraterrestrial Global Warming

The Whole Solar System is Undergoing Global Warming

Great reply! As you suggest, until Al Gore and Barack Obama come up with a plan to keep the universe under control, we are really just guessing.

It would seem that those two cold-hearted Democrats would be a good counter to global warming....
 
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