Are all men were created equal?

This is correct. This is what it means, and that is the way that it should be. But I think we all know that it is not so.

 

Well, yeah. I left off the "theoretically". That is where some of the dispute over "activist" judges stems from. Requiring states to provide legal consel to indigent people charged with a criminal offense is one example. Was that part of the Miranda decision?

National sufferage was granted with the 19th Amendment, but individual states could set their own rules for local elections. One of those pioneer states, Wyoming or Montana - I forget which, allowed women sufferage in the 1800's.

 

Easy. The context of the word in Hebrew are "finding favor with" and "having less favor", or in layman's terms, loving and loving less. The word for hate denotes a loathing, distaste, etc. It does not denote a withholding of love as we often infuse in the English word.

If this were not so, then scripture contradicts itself in light of John 3:16.

[ September 22, 2005, 05:30 PM: Message edited by: Johnv ]

 

It's not a translation issue, but a grammatic issue of the Hebrew. You need to look at the original Hebrew (to be specific, the contextual meaning of the word "sane", pronounced "sawnay"). If you do a google search, I'm sure you'll be able to find some existing commentaries on the topic. The reason I'm aware of this is because this was one of the topics that stuck with me in Bible college.

For example, we English-speakers have only one word for "love", while in Greek and Hebrew, there are multiple words.

 

The KJV is fine. Just remember to let scripture interpret scripture. John 3:16 and other verses denote that God loves all, so it stands to reason that when God hates, he does not withhold His love from those he hates.

 

Easy. The context of the word in Hebrew are "finding favor with" and "having less favor", or in layman's terms, loving and loving less. The word for hate denotes a loathing, distaste, etc. It does not denote a withholding of love as we often infuse in the English word.

If this were not so, then scripture contradicts itself in light of John 3:16. </font>[/QUOTE]It seems those that fail to remember to take the Bible as a whole have some real trouble with these kinds of issues. Satan is aware and uses these failings to his advantage.

By the time I could get to my trusty dusty Unger's Bible Dictionary to be sure I was right about what I was thinking about "hated", you had already pointed it out.

 

Aren't we all created in God's image? Wouldn't that be enough to say we were all created equal?
(Sorry if that has already been brought up)

 

Then we have to ask if we were created in God's image. Adam and Eve were...we were made by our parents. What I just said is a theological belief I read about but forget the name of it so I'm sorry for that.

Feel free to disagree with me but someone feel free to know what I'm talking about and maybe expand on it.

 

You may be right. I just heard this theory before that the only ones God created were Adam and Eve. The rest of us were made by our parents and our inherited sin nature is proof of this. God wouldn't create something bad.

 

But the writers don't say who it is. It could be space aliens who spliced our genes together from apes thereby creating us.

 

Ok. I'm just saying that they said "God"...and one can come up with various interpretations of who this God was. Unless they specify it's Jesus Christ, we don't know if they mean Jesus Christ.