OLD SARGE
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Better to have no music than to split a church over it. Listen your favorite genre on the way in and then come in to worship in the Word. Not a reason to split. We could go back to Gregorian chants. We already have some songs that were Christian rock in the 70s like There Is A Redeemer written by a Pentecostal. The one you hate today will be in the Baptist Hymnal in 20 years. Some old hymns contain doctrinal error or encourage false images like Mansion Over The Hilltop making people think we are going to get a building like Tara. So sing what you like at home to maintain unity to accomplish the main mission of the Church. We are spoiled children. Amazing Grace was once CCM and was bashed because of the African tune. Now, it is the Global Anthem of the Body.
Are All The Godly Songwriter's Dead?
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Give me chapter and verse that says anything about the method in giving. Maybe no checks, only cash. That is another carnal issue created by man. Give and let God sort out the method issue at the BEMA. If you split over that, you are carnal.
Actually, we do not need age groups. Indeed, that is buying into what the Communists use to indoctrinate children to revel in their peer groups rather than look to the older generation for wisdom. The one room school house helped build the greatest generation because the older learned to care for the younger and the younger looked up to the older. Sunday School as started by Roger Raikes in England was literally school that met on Sunday so that the kids that had to work during the week could learn the 3 Rs. It was not a discipleship program. A devotion was given, but the primary purpose was to tutor and prevent illiteracy and other ignorance. We brought it over here and messed it up. As men are to be the primary teachers of children in the ways of God our SS teachers should be males or husband and wife teams with the man giving the training and the wife giving nurture to the kids. Since the Fed has lowered adulthood to 18 once a child hits 18 they should be promoted to the adult classes. Yes, they are in their teens, but they are adults and that can and has created problems. If a lad impregnates his 17 year old girl friend at camp or during a lock down the church could be held liable for allowing the situation that ended in statutory rape. Civil suits as well as criminal charges could be made. One church allowed a pregnant teen to stay in the youth group and there was a rash of teen pregnancies possibly influenced by that pregnant teen.
If you want a junior church, fine, but we need to either dump Sunday School or do a complete revamp. If parents want their kids in the main service that was how it had always been until we messed up Sunday School.
Are All The Godly Songwriter's Dead?

Are All The Godly Songwriters Dead?
Do you like good music? Do you know what it is?
Give me chapter and verse that says anything about the method in giving. Maybe no checks, only cash. That is another carnal issue created by man. Give and let God sort out the method issue at the BEMA. If you split over that, you are carnal.
Actually, we do not need age groups. Indeed, that is buying into what the Communists use to indoctrinate children to revel in their peer groups rather than look to the older generation for wisdom. The one room school house helped build the greatest generation because the older learned to care for the younger and the younger looked up to the older. Sunday School as started by Roger Raikes in England was literally school that met on Sunday so that the kids that had to work during the week could learn the 3 Rs. It was not a discipleship program. A devotion was given, but the primary purpose was to tutor and prevent illiteracy and other ignorance. We brought it over here and messed it up. As men are to be the primary teachers of children in the ways of God our SS teachers should be males or husband and wife teams with the man giving the training and the wife giving nurture to the kids. Since the Fed has lowered adulthood to 18 once a child hits 18 they should be promoted to the adult classes. Yes, they are in their teens, but they are adults and that can and has created problems. If a lad impregnates his 17 year old girl friend at camp or during a lock down the church could be held liable for allowing the situation that ended in statutory rape. Civil suits as well as criminal charges could be made. One church allowed a pregnant teen to stay in the youth group and there was a rash of teen pregnancies possibly influenced by that pregnant teen.
If you want a junior church, fine, but we need to either dump Sunday School or do a complete revamp. If parents want their kids in the main service that was how it had always been until we messed up Sunday School.