Are the Obama's Trashing the White House???

[EdSutton]

Don't forget okra! No garden is complete without it!

Now you've gone and done it. Add okra with the tomatoes and you also have to have corn, and also now should have some peppers to go along with the onions, for that, as well. :thumbs:

You also now need fresh green beans, even more than the peas and carrots, to go along with corn. :thumbsup:

You need potatoes and onions with the peas - 'new' peas, 'new' potatoes, and 'new' onions, all cooked together. :thumbs:

And I note I see no mention of the 'lettuce bed' anywhere - how :tear: is that??

Ed

 

[windcatcher]

Actually, Ed, although most people count lettuce as a green..... which it is, it has very little nutritive value. Not enough vitamins to count, a few minerals........ about the most important nutrition lettuce has is water content..... lots of it.... but most people don't think of water as being 'a nutrient'..... but try living without it.

I'm with the majority on this one. Making a beef about gardens and gym sets sounds petty. I would like to see all folks we send to DC, live a bit more like most of us. I think gardening....particularly growing foods and learning to care for it and gather is healthy and instructional and gives one a real appreciation for the intensity of labor that goes into that supermarket basket and is paid for before we walk out of the grocery store. Plus, the best and freshest nutrition is the just gathered ripened in the sun and ready to eat..... not the picked early, placed or gassed into a sleep for transporting to wake up and finish ripening for table-ready upon arrival at market.

I hope its not one of those rich-man's dream projects intended for family experience which gets weigh-layed by schedules and other priorities until outside help is hired and ergo loses the experiential lessons which were originally intended..... and teaches a different set of values: namely.....that it pays to have money and buy labor cheap to do the hard stuff or dirty work.... which is too lowly to consider as profitable or having worth.

 

[EdSutton]

Actually, Ed, although most people count lettuce as a green..... which it is, it has very little nutritive value. Not enough vitamins to count, a few minerals........ about the most important nutrition lettuce has is water content..... lots of it.... but most people don't think of water as being 'a nutrient'..... but try living without it.

I'm with the majority on this one. Making a beef about gardens and gym sets sounds petty. I would like to see all folks we send to DC, live a bit more like most of us. I think gardening....particularly growing foods and learning to care for it and gather is healthy and instructional and gives one a real appreciation for the intensity of labor that goes into that supermarket basket and is paid for before we walk out of the grocery store. Plus, the best and freshest nutrition is the just gathered ripened in the sun and ready to eat..... not the picked early, placed or gassed into a sleep for transporting to wake up and finish ripening for table-ready upon arrival at market.

I hope its not one of those rich-man's dream projects intended for family experience which gets weigh-layed by schedules and other priorities until outside help is hired and ergo loses the experiential lessons which were originally intended..... and teaches a different set of values: namely.....that it pays to have money and buy labor cheap to do the hard stuff or dirty work.... which is too lowly to consider as profitable or having worth.

I'll agree that lettuce is a green vegetable. However, the reason I mentioned the lettuce bed specifically, was that was also where we always had the green bunching onions, sometimes collards, and always radishes, and started the Tomato, Cabbage, Pepper, Kale, Cauliflower, and Broccoli plants, along with some other things besides the lettuce, as well.

In later years, as a tobacco farmer, I started all these, and much more on outside float "water beds", along with tobacco plants. Today, no longer farming tobacco, I merely do one small float bed for the veggies, which holds either 12 or 21 14"X27" Styrofoam trays, depending on which one I use. I actually still have enough bed space for almost 600 trays.

Ed

 

[Palatka51]

First they put in a massive jungle gym swing and slide apparatus for the girls, and on Jay Leno, Obama says his wife has planted a garden behind the WH. And she has asked a public school first grade class to watch over the garden.

What will the White House look like when Obama loses the 2012 re-election? :smilewinkgrin:

Actually, it's kind of down home and folksy looking around there. And the Obama lovers that I know, think it's so "sweet" that the Obama's' are making the White House look lived in....give me a break!

I know they need to make it their home, but, are they "trashing" the White House with these "sweet little family projects?"

Let's hear what the Forum has to say about this.......

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :type:

Come on Paul this is just wrong. I haven't always liked who resides in the White House, Lyndon Johnson, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton
(too young to have cared about Eisenhower or Kennedy) but I never blasted anyone for their "sweet little family projects."

 

[targus]

Union Demands Fair Wages for Obama Garden Kids

At issue is the president’s plan to employ 23 fifth-graders from nearby Bancroft Elementary school to dig, plant, weed and harvest everything from strawberries to arugula in the 1,100-square-foot plot.

The UFW has demanded it be allowed to organize by means of a card-check vote, in which the 11-year-old laborers would be invited by their teachers to sign a card affirming their desire to unionize without a secret ballot.

“It is frankly shocking to most Americans,” he added, “that the first African-American president would send workers into the field without pay, to toil under the unforgiving sun, bearing the fruits of their labors to the table of the man in the big white house.”

http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=3388

:tonofbricks:

 

[Alcott]

No garden of mine has any tomatoes. To me they are tasteless. But what I really want to grow-- cantalopes-- just won't grow in the soil I have; so I haven't even done a garden the past 2 years.

As for a swing set at the White House-- if the F.B.I. reports are right, a lot of presidents probably did have a different type of set for swinging.

 

[targus]

That is so funny - I'm still laughing !!:laugh::laugh:

 

[righteousdude2]

OK, Maybe I was Hitting "Below the Belt"

I will humbly ask forgiveness from my peers on this board for be TOO PICKY. It was wrong of me to pick on the attempts of the Obama's to make the WH more like their own home. I yield to the comments of the majority, and apologize for making a mountain out of nothing more than my "bad day" opinion.

Pastor Paul:type:

 

[JustChristian]

It would be interesting to me to know how much of the actual work Michelle Obama does in this garden. Or how long she sticks too it.

I'm wondering if this isn't just for show - more symbolism over substance that has become the signature style of Democrats and liberals.

I am also wondering if in a few months, if the economy is much worse than it is now, the White House will be admonishing the people for not thinking ahead like Michelle did and planted our own gardens so then we not have to be so dependent upon the government. That we need to learn to be more self reliant.

Unfortunately, over the last failed administration Republicans under Bush actually did things, ALL of them bad. I wish Bush had been a little more symbolic instead of brutally destructive of our country.

 

[Magnetic Poles]

Paul, thanks for your retraction and apology. We all have bad days now and again.

 

[JustChristian]

First they put in a massive jungle gym swing and slide apparatus for the girls, and on Jay Leno, Obama says his wife has planted a garden behind the WH. And she has asked a public school first grade class to watch over the garden.

What will the White House look like when Obama loses the 2012 re-election? :smilewinkgrin:

Actually, it's kind of down home and folksy looking around there. And the Obama lovers that I know, think it's so "sweet" that the Obama's' are making the White House look lived in....give me a break!

I know they need to make it their home, but, are they "trashing" the White House with these "sweet little family projects?"

Let's hear what the Forum has to say about this.......

Shalom,

Pastor Paul :type:

Play Areas for Roosevelt's Grandchildren
With frequent visits from their 13 grandchildren, First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt had swings, sandboxes and slides built on the South Lawn.

Andrew Jackson -- the president who had the Orangery built and whose inaugural reception became a bacchanal on the lawn -- apparently enjoyed early-morning swims au natural in the nearby Potomac River, followed by some weeding and digging around in the White House gardens.

President Gerald Ford was quite athletic and an avid swimmer. In 1976, an inground outdoor swimming pool was built on the White House Grounds, near the tennis courts. President Ford tried to make swimming a daily habit, and even conducted press conferences while swimming laps in the pool. Ford's son Jack took scuba diving lessons in the pool; while later, young Amy Carter perfected her diving technique when her father, Jimmy Carter, was in office.

President Andrew Jackson -- the one who enjoyed those crack-of-dawn swims in the Potomac and early- morning gardening -- created the White House orangery, a type of greenhouse in which tropical fruit trees and flowers can be grown. Some 18 years later, during Franklin Pierce's administration, Jackson's orangery was expanded into a greenhouse. In 1857, the orangery was torn down to accommodate a new wing for the Treasury Department. Another greenhouse was built on the west side of the White House, next to the State Floor.

The very versatile and handy President Jimmy Carter designed and built a treehouse on the grounds of the White House for his daughter, Amy. Rumor has it that the treehouse is in storage, leading to the question: Will Malia and Sasha Obama be hiding from the Secret Service in the treehouse?

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What you're talking about has been done fairly routinely at the White House.

 

[blackbird]

Sorry, no watermelon, corn, tomatoes, bell pepper, squash, or okra patches at the White House.
Berries, rhubarb, peas, carrots, fennel, onions, and lots and lots of greens are in the plans, however.

I'd run through a "belt line" to get a good mess of greens

We pick Blackberries on the farm here in Alabama----spray ourselves with "OFF"(Modern day DDT) for Red Bugs(Chiggers),Ticks and 'Skeeters commonly found in Blackberry "Briar Patches"!!

We don't have rhubarb and what in "Sam Hill" is a fennel??????:wavey:

 

[EdSutton]

I'd run through a "belt line" to get a good mess of greens

We pick Blackberries on the farm here in Alabama----spray ourselves with "OFF"(Modern day DDT) for Red Bugs(Chiggers),Ticks and 'Skeeters commonly found in Blackberry "Briar Patches"!!

We don't have rhubarb and what in "Sam Hill" is a fennel??????:wavey:

If you want rhubarb, just check some of the fora on the BB.

I'm pretty sure you can usually find a rhubarb going on there, somewhere.

:thumbsup: Or should I say :tear: ?

Fennel? That's an herb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fennel



Ed

 

[EdSutton]

Andrew Jackson -- the president who had the Orangery built and whose inaugural reception became a bacchanal on the lawn -- apparently enjoyed early-morning swims au natural in the nearby Potomac River, followed by some weeding and digging around in the White House gardens.

Any President swimming in the Potomac, and weeding and digging around in the White House Gardens,

all in nothing other than his birthday suit, is definitely TMI! :laugh: :tongue3:

Ed

 

[Robert Snow]

Union Demands Fair Wages for Obama Garden Kids

At issue is the president’s plan to employ 23 fifth-graders from nearby Bancroft Elementary school to dig, plant, weed and harvest everything from strawberries to arugula in the 1,100-square-foot plot.

The UFW has demanded it be allowed to organize by means of a card-check vote, in which the 11-year-old laborers would be invited by their teachers to sign a card affirming their desire to unionize without a secret ballot.

“It is frankly shocking to most Americans,” he added, “that the first African-American president would send workers into the field without pay, to toil under the unforgiving sun, bearing the fruits of their labors to the table of the man in the big white house.”

http://www.scrappleface.com/?p=3388

:tonofbricks:

:laugh::laugh:

 

[rbell]

I thought "fennel" was the past tense of "funnel."

Well, that explains the hippie at the county fair. She was selling "fennel cakes." I thought she was just a poor speller.

Stuff tasted awful.

 

[tinytim]

We don't have rhubarb and what in "Sam Hill" is a fennel??????:wavey:

Isn't that what I use to put transmission fluid into my car?

 

[LadyEagle]

Play Areas for Roosevelt's Grandchildren
With frequent visits from their 13 grandchildren, First Lady Eleanor Roosevelt had swings, sandboxes and slides built on the South Lawn.

Andrew Jackson -- the president who had the Orangery built and whose inaugural reception became a bacchanal on the lawn -- apparently enjoyed early-morning swims au natural in the nearby Potomac River, followed by some weeding and digging around in the White House gardens.

President Gerald Ford was quite athletic and an avid swimmer. In 1976, an inground outdoor swimming pool was built on the White House Grounds, near the tennis courts. President Ford tried to make swimming a daily habit, and even conducted press conferences while swimming laps in the pool. Ford's son Jack took scuba diving lessons in the pool; while later, young Amy Carter perfected her diving technique when her father, Jimmy Carter, was in office.

President Andrew Jackson -- the one who enjoyed those crack-of-dawn swims in the Potomac and early- morning gardening -- created the White House orangery, a type of greenhouse in which tropical fruit trees and flowers can be grown. Some 18 years later, during Franklin Pierce's administration, Jackson's orangery was expanded into a greenhouse. In 1857, the orangery was torn down to accommodate a new wing for the Treasury Department. Another greenhouse was built on the west side of the White House, next to the State Floor.

The very versatile and handy President Jimmy Carter designed and built a treehouse on the grounds of the White House for his daughter, Amy. Rumor has it that the treehouse is in storage, leading to the question: Will Malia and Sasha Obama be hiding from the Secret Service in the treehouse?

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What you're talking about has been done fairly routinely at the White House.

Please provide a link for your source in accordance with the copyright rules for this forum. Thanks.

 

[carpro]

I am also wondering if in a few months, if the economy is much worse than it is now, the White House will be admonishing the people for not thinking ahead like Michelle did and planted our own gardens so then we not have to be so dependent upon the government. That we need to learn to be more self reliant.

That'll never happen.

They want people dependent on the government.

"Self reliance" is not in the socialist vocabulary.

 

[JustChristian]

Please provide a link for your source in accordance with the copyright rules for this forum. Thanks.

Once again, I understand you're no longer the moderator of this forum. Am I correct?

Source.

http://poolandpatio.about.com/od/outdoorlivinghardscaping/tp/whitehousetrivia.htm