Are there even biblical arminians posting On The baptist Board?

[Yeshua1]

That is your assumption. Adam and Eve had no sin nature, yet they sinned. Satan was not created with a sin nature, yet he sinned. So, this idea of yours that a person MUST have a sin nature to sin is totally refuted by scripture.



I actually agree with this, "from the womb", that is, after we are born we go astray in sin. But we are not born sinners.



Jesus himself refutes you, Jesus said if he were to deny his father, he would be a liar. His sinfulness was determined by what he DID.

Jhn 8:55 Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying.

Jesus said that if he said he did not know his Father, he would be a liar, he would be a sinner. Jesus being a sinner or not was determined by what he did.



Jesus implied he could sin, he said "if" he denied that he knew his Father he would be a liar. The word "if" implies that it was possible for Jesus to deny that he knew his Father and be a liar.

Why would Jesus imply he could lie if he was unable?

Jesus was not a sinner because he always obeyed God's commandments and never sinned.

jesus was BORN as the sinless lamb of God, and since he was ALWAYS God, he became a man without a sin nature!

he was defined by being "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with god, and was God", NOT to how he lived while on earth!

Again, jesus unique, NO other Human was born like him, nor could keep the Law as he did, not claim to be sinless, nor God Incarnate!

 

[convicted1]

Jesus was BORN as the sinless lamb of God, and since he was ALWAYS God, he became a man without a sin nature!

Agreed.

He was defined by being "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Gd, and was God", not how he lived while on earth!

I dunno about that part I bolded, Brother. How He lived on earth defined Him as the Son of man, and Son of God. It defined Him as being in a fleshly body, just like ours. He was made just like us, was confronted by the temptations we are confronted with, yet, He never sinned, and neither could He sin, and chose not to. Jesus was also defined by how He lived on earth through His earthly ministry.

Again, Jesus unique, NO other Human was born like him, nor could keep the Law as he did, not claim to be sinless, nor God Incarnate!

I don't disagree with you in that Jesus was unique, yet He was also just like us, yet w/o sin. He hungered, thirsted, had to go "potty", got sick, was tempted by sin, tired out from walking, etc. Though He looked just like us, and His physical appearance was just like ours. So He was/is unique in that He was 100% God, and 100% man, yet He was also just like us. He was the only One to keep the Law perfectly, and the only One who ever will.

 

[Yeshua1]

Agreed.




I dunno about that part I bolded, Brother. How He lived on earth defined Him as the Son of man, and Son of God. It defined Him as being in a fleshly body, just like ours. He was made just like us, was confronted by the temptations we are confronted with, yet, He never sinned, and neither could He sin, and chose not to. Jesus was also defined by how He lived on earth through His earthly ministry.





I don't disagree with you in that Jesus was unique, yet He was also just like us, yet w/o sin. He hungered, thirsted, had to go "potty", got sick, was tempted by sin, tired out from walking, etc. Though He looked just like us, and His physical appearance was just like ours. So He was/is unique in that He was 100% God, and 100% man, yet He was also just like us. He was the only One to keep the Law perfectly, and the only One who ever will.

jesus was God in human flesh, born of a Virgin, without a sin nature as we are born with!

he did not sin, as he is God!

He was like us being Human,NOT like us, as born sinless nature, and was God!