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Are there Fundamentalist Calvinist Baptists then?

John of Japan

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Only God is good brother… as you know, we were corrupted from A & E in the Garden.;)
I disagree. I have been made good/righteous through the blood of Jesus Christ.
BTW I’m studying Genesis… can you translate the word, “Elohim”
Essentially this is a generic word for God, and to my knowledge is translated "God" in the typical English translation.
I believe you’re studied in Hebrew… if not, then I apologize. This word has a plural form and that confuses me, my Hebrew isn’t exemplary .. I’m trying to understand context.
Yes, it is the plural form, but in context it can often be translated as simply "God" and not "gods."
 

JesusFan

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What point do they not agree with? In my eyes anyway, they aren’t truly reformed in doctrine. Being both a Calvinist and IFB is weird. Do any Particular Baptists align with them? But how could they being 5 pointes in doctrine?
Disagree on limiutes atonement, which is the one doctrine of Grace majority disagree with with the "5 pointers"
 

John of Japan

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Whats funny man?

All calvinists believe in the virgin birth inspiration of Scripture, atonement, visible return, and resurrection. I think that is the 5 tenets?
Those are the "fundamentals" of fundamentalism. Calvinists and other evangelicals all hold to them.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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He certainly was that, but I thought he described himself as being an IBF - but my memory may be playing me false.
Absolutely not… and he criticized it! His anchor philosophy, theology if you Will was… “Saving Grace” which he taught me via his continued statements emphasizing it as the key component. However Tom emphatically stressed that Calvin wasn’t important… I often heard, “Calvin! who is that guy?” Frankly I liked that analysis.
 

Martin Marprelate

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Absolutely not… and he criticized it! His anchor philosophy, theology if you Will was… “Saving Grace” which he taught me via his continued statements emphasizing it as the key component. However Tom emphatically stressed that Calvin wasn’t important… I often heard, “Calvin! who is that guy?” Frankly I liked that analysis.
OK, I'm sure you're right. And Tom was right as well. Calvinism does not need Calvin (though he was not the ogre that some make him out to be). But Calvinism long preceeded Calvin; it is nothing else but Biblical salvation.
 

JesusFan

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OK, I'm sure you're right. And Tom was right as well. Calvinism does not need Calvin (though he was not the ogre that some make him out to be). But Calvinism long preceeded Calvin; it is nothing else but Biblical salvation.
Actually, wasn';t what we called Reformed/Calvinism more what Beza and Dort defined it as being, not so much Calvin?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Actually, wasn';t what we called Reformed/Calvinism more what Beza and Dort defined it as being, not so much Calvin?
Let me just say this & I hope I’m clear as a bell… the doctrines of grace all stand or fall together, and together they point to one central truth : salvation is all of grace because it is all of G-D, and because of this it is all of his glory. I can’t be more plain.
 
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Jerome

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I thought he described himself as being an IBF
You're right.

TCassidy, in thread titled Define Fundamentalist
I have pastored an IFB church in San Diego for over 25 years. I have been in ministry associated with IFB churches for over 35 years. I was a professor of Philosophy at an IFB college, and department chairman of Biblical and Historical Theology at an IFB seminary for over 20 years.
TCassidy, in thread titled Questions for Fundamentalists
I am IFB and have been in IFB ministry for 40 years. 25 of those years I traveled representing two different IFB schools.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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You're right.

TCassidy, in thread titled Define Fundamentalist

TCassidy, in thread titled Questions for Fundamentalists
So can a Fundamentalist also be a Particular Baptist… and/or as old Tom retired and got a bit more deteriated in his health, could he have reconsidered his position in the church?

Go back into the BB archives and see his complete correspondence & commentaries because his declared himself a Particular Baptist at that point in his life…in fact he joked about Fundamentalists and even critiqued them. The archives will prove it out.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Tom was definitely an independent fundamental Baptist. And a Calvinist.
That’s an odd paring but that was Brother Tom. I also understand he spent time in Law enforcement as a sheriff in San Diego and he liked Glocks so he wasn’t sinister man Even if he had a reformed background… I liked and miss the guy… he was good for BB.
 
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