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Are these pictures of Noah's Ark?

BobRyan

Well-Known Member
Others believe that if Noah's Ark were really on the gale-force-winds dominated "shoreless ocean" of a world-wide flood - it would have been "crushed to splinters".

Many beliefs -- I am simply waiting to see how much more is learned when they do more excavation of that wooden struction at the 12000 ft level of Ararat.

in Christ,

Bob
 

NathanAlan

New Member
I cannot tell you with any degree of sureness what this structure is or how it got there, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that this structure is not Noah's Ark. First, note that the Bible does not say the Ark landed on a mountain called Ararat. Rather, Genesis 8:4 states: "In the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, the ark rested upon the mountains of Ararat (NASB)."

There is a plurality of mountains mentioned in the Scriptures, and as I understand it, the singular Ararat in Turkey wasn't even named so until a much later date than Noah (from what I understand it could not have been earlier than the 11th Century AD - a considerable time gap). Further, there is no evidence from the Scriptures that the Ark rested anywhere near Turkey. In fact, there is a clear indication otherwise. The Bible tells us that the survivors of the flood journeyed "from the east," then settled in the land of Shinar (more commonly known as the region of Babylon). "It came about as they journeyed east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar and settled there." -Genesis 11:2 (NASB)

The mountain in question does not fit the description provided in Genesis. It is simply in the wrong location.

-NathanAlan
 

BobRyan

Well-Known Member
Moses was writing about 1500 B.C. - don't know what they called that mountain in 1500 B.C - was it "Ararat"? Who knows?

Here is a little snippet I found on History.com

Ararat consists of two peaks, their summits about 7 miles (11 km) apart.

Great Ararat, or Büyük Agri Dagi, which reaches an elevation of 16,945 feet (5,165 metres) above sea level, is the highest peak in Turkey.

Little Ararat, or Küçük Agri Dagi, rises in a smooth, steep, nearly perfect cone to 12,782 feet (3,896 metres). Both Great and Little Ararat are the product of eruptive volcanic activity. Neither retains any evidence of a crater, but well-formed cones and fissures exist on their flanks. Towering some 14,000 feet (4,300 metres) above the adjoining plains, the snowcapped conical peak of the Great Ararat offers a majestic sight. The snowline varies with the season, retreating to 14,000 feet above sea level by the end of the summer. The only true glacier is found on the northern side of the Great Ararat, near its summit. The middle zone of Ararat, measuring from 5,000 to 11,500 feet (1,500 to 3,500 metres), is covered with good pasture grass and some juniper; there the local Kurdish population graze their sheep. Most of the Great Ararat is treeless, but Little Ararat has a few birch groves. Despite the abundant cover of snow, the Ararat area suffers from scarcity of water.

Ararat traditionally is associated with the mountain on which Noah's Ark came to rest at the end of the Flood. The name Ararat, as it appears in the Bible, is the Hebrew equivalent of Urardhu, or Urartu, the Assyro-Babylonian name of a kingdom that flourished between the Aras and the Upper Tigris rivers from the 9th to the 7th century BC. Ararat is sacred to the Armenians, who believe themselves to be the first race of humans to appear in the world after the Deluge. A Persian legend refers to the Ararat as the cradle of the human race. There was formerly a village on the slopes of the Ararat high above the Aras plain, at the spot where, according to local tradition, Noah built an altar and planted the first vineyard. Above the village Armenians built a monastery to commemorate St. Jacob, who is said to have tried repeatedly but failed to reach the summit of Great Ararat in search of the Ark. The village, the monastery of St. Jacob, and a nearby chapel of St. James were all totally destroyed by an earthquake and avalanche in 1840.

Local tradition maintained that the Ark still lay on the summit but that God had declared that no one should see it. In September 1829, Johann Jacob von Parrot, a German, made the first recorded successful ascent. Since then Ararat has been scaled by several explorers, some of whom claim to have sighted the remains of the Ark.

Another source offers this commentary -

Ararat is the highest location in the ancient kingdom of Urartu, a region which covered thousands of square miles. Ararat is the Hebrew name of Urartu from the Hebrew Torah written by Moses (c. 1450 BC) which only included the consonants "rrt". The Assyrians wrote about battles against the Urartian tribes from the thirteenth century BC until the sixth century BC when Urartu was destroyed by the Medes. The name Urartu then vanished from history and was replaced by Ararat and Armenia in the vicinity as well as in Bible translations in English, etc
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Mount Ararat may be the largest single-mass or volume mountain in the world as it is huge (one really has to see it in person to appreciate its immensity) and rises to 17,000 feet from the plains surrounding it at 2,000-3,000 feet while most other large mountains are in a mountain range with less differential and base circumference
 
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