Are UFOS mentioned in the Bible? What are they?

[InTheLight]

This seems the most likely to be used method. Biblical Demonology/Angelology certainly suggests this is QUITE within their power (at least some of them). And it would have the most convincing effect.


On the whole, I find that to be a perfectly plausible suggestion. Now, you have been answered, except, I don't speak for everyone, of course.

Could you show me in scripture where demons have the ability to shape shift or manifest themselves as a non-living entity? Because I've only read of them inhabiting living creatures, i.e. humans, swine, etc.

When you say that demons are clever enough to make radar blips appear, could you specify how this would be accomplished? Would it happen because a person under the influence of demons would rig the electronics or could demons supernaturally affect circuitry?

I appreciate your answers.

 

[blackbird]

did the prophet Ezeckiel see one?

I'm afraid that what Ezekiel say was what would be called

"The Real McCoy"

Not something from outer space----but from the spiritual world of Heaven!:thumbs::thumbs:

 

[HeirofSalvation]

Could you show me in scripture where demons have the ability to shape shift or manifest themselves as a non-living entity? Because I've only read of them inhabiting living creatures, i.e. humans, swine, etc.

True: It is a presumption of common (as I've read it) Angelology/demonology, but, a plausible and warranted one. I can come back with specifics later but it hinges upon the idea that if demons are fallen angels and angels (at least some of them) can appear in certain forms to men, than it follows that some demons can likewise. The angel appeared to do so to Daniel for instance and also Gabriel's appearance to Mary. Gabriel is classified as a Cherub, and when he appeared to Mary, it is assummed he did not do so in his natural form. <----THAT would be frightening! (Explained by a comparison of Ezekiel's vision near the river Chebar) <---I think I spelled that right. That is found in Ezekiel chapters 1 and 10.

In Joshua chapter 5: Joshua sees a "man" with a sword and what-not who identifies himself as the "Captain of the Lord's host"..(likely an angel). This is thought not to be his "natural" form.

As I said this is built on our VERY limited knowledge of what the Scriptures teach us emphatically about Angels and demons which is (thankfully) precious little. Maybe someone more expert than I on the topic could give you more insight into why many believe demons could easily change forms or shape-shift. I am relying heavily on the teachings of Theologians more knowledgeable than I on the issue.

When you say that demons are clever enough to make radar blips appear, could you specify how this would be accomplished?

Only if I MYSELF had a clue, could I specify how :laugh:

Would it happen because a person under the influence of demons would rig the electronics or could demons supernaturally affect circuitry?

Sounds like as good an explanation as any...sabotage!! I like it, has a certain Hercule Poirot ring to it...But, and of course I'm speculating, I imagine demons are perfectly capable on monkeying with material things and devises in such a way as to give false readings certainly, I have no problem thinking them easily capable of doing the work themselves.
I am somewhat partial to the likely explanation that SOME manifestations of UFO phenomena are the results of demonic influence, but, I don't think we can be dogmatic about it.

I appreciate your answers.

I appreciate your input too :thumbs:

 

[HAMel]

I have to agree with many of the posters here in that UFO's are real but I don't believe they come from other planets nor are they representatives of other races.

To me, UFO's are part of the Great Deception initiated by the evil one to mislead many. Accordingly, UFO Cults have sprung up around the world in record numbers.

To change the subject a bit..., consider the TV Program(s) regarding the Voyages of Star Trek. From it's beginning some 40 years ago the idea was that Captain Kirk and his crew were to follow the Prime Directive as ordered by Starfleet Command as they roamed the vastness of Space.

All of this was but a take off on the idea that mankind is in charge of their own destiny. As "we" know, the only real Prime Directive for mankind is the Word of God but to the heathen..., God doesn't exist.

So it is with UFO's. The human race doesn't need God. All we need to do is wait for these alien types to land and fix all our problems. :tonofbricks:

 

[Alcott]

So it is with UFO's. The human race doesn't need God. All we need to do is wait for these alien types to land and fix all our problems.

Yes, I'm sure they really want to serve man.

 

[Yeshua1]

Could you show me in scripture where demons have the ability to shape shift or manifest themselves as a non-living entity? Because I've only read of them inhabiting living creatures, i.e. humans, swine, etc.

When you say that demons are clever enough to make radar blips appear, could you specify how this would be accomplished? Would it happen because a person under the influence of demons would rig the electronics or could demons supernaturally affect circuitry?

I appreciate your answers.

You have to realise that Angels/Demons, who are fallen angels, are all spiritual beings, o when they "interact" within our physical Universe, they assume forms/shapes that would make sense to us, as angels take on human appearance for us to see them, and demons would act as 'ghosts" to delude us!

They are not subject to the physical laws as we are, being flesh and blood, so why can't they manifest differingeffects that appear to be beyond our current scirnce/tech?

 

[Yeshua1]

have to keep in mind these are Supernatural beings, outside our normal space/time reality, so would be able to interact with humans like Q in Star Trek, or Mxy in superman!

 

[Yeshua1]

would also see satan adapting to the times, for he could use ghost/goblins/faiaries to delude in middle ages, but now uses "aliens" to keep pace with our science/tech!

 

[TC]

Yes, I'm sure they really want to serve man.

In the twilight zone that ended up being a cookbook. :laugh:

 

[Alcott]

Yes, I'm sure they really want to serve man.

In the twilight zone that ended up being a cookbook. :laugh:

I can't tell if you knew that's what I was referring to, or if you think I just said that inadvertantly.

 

[Yeshua1]

Yes, I'm sure they really want to serve man.



I can't tell if you knew that's what I was referring to, or if you think I just said that inadvertantly.

to Serve man, wasn't it?

 

[Alcott]

to Serve man, wasn't it?

The episode was entitled, "To Serve Man." If I recall correctly, a very illogical thing is shown by deciphering the aliens' language of that book is somehow obtained. Even if they could discover the meaning of the book title is "To Serve Man," it's a huge presumption to think the play on words must work in English and in 'Alien.'

 

[saturneptune]

Yes, I'm sure they really want to serve man.



I can't tell if you knew that's what I was referring to, or if you think I just said that inadvertantly.

I can see where you and the Twilight Zone would have a psychic connection.

 

[Alcott]

I can see where you and the Twilight Zone would have a psychic connection.

And what kind of connection to you have to the TZ, considering that the episode referenced herein is more in line with your beliefs and hopes than it is mine?

 

[saturneptune]

And what kind of connection to you have to the TZ, considering that the episode referenced herein is more in line with your beliefs and hopes than it is mine?

And that shows how much you pay attention to the posts. How many times, in this and other threads, did I say I believe we have never been visited by life from other worlds?

You know it is a proven fact that people with preconceived notions can read something that is opposite of that notion and come to the same conclusion.

 

[Alcott]

And that shows how much you pay attention to the posts. How many times, in this and other threads, did I say I believe we have never been visited by life from other worlds?

I most definitely stand by my claim that The Twilight Zone-- in particular the episode that was discussed here-- is more in line with your views that mine by your quote here:

"There is life or there is not life out there. Personally, I think there is and hope there is. A lot of this type of stuff has an element of something called the human imagination, the ability to dream or ponder ideas."

That's clearly TZ thought material that you expressed. I disagree with it and say it's quite unlikely there is physical life beyond earth. So what is this claim of yours that I have a "psychic connection" to the TZ?

You know it is a proven fact that people with preconceived notions can read something that is opposite of that notion and come to the same conclusion.

I think that must be so; your own posts and claims make Exhibit A.

 

[Yeshua1]

I most definitely stand by my claim that The Twilight Zone-- in particular the episode that was discussed here-- is more in line with your views that mine by your quote here:

"There is life or there is not life out there. Personally, I think there is and hope there is. A lot of this type of stuff has an element of something called the human imagination, the ability to dream or ponder ideas."

That's clearly TZ thought material that you expressed. I disagree with it and say it's quite unlikely there is physical life beyond earth. So what is this claim of yours that I have a "psychic connection" to the TZ?



I think that must be so; your own posts and claims make Exhibit A.

I have read and seen where some will be using UFO as reason why Christians raptured away, for it will be said we were taken away due to us not being agreement with "new world order!"