Are we at war with CHINA?

[Earth Wind and Fire]

If we taxed international goods according to a comparable level of treatment of workers and the environment, perhaps everything would be made in the USA, but at least not in China or India or Mexico.

Interesting idea... have you any implementation ideas that you could share with us readers to get our wheels spinning. I will preface this by my testimony of having seen first hand an American manufacturer move its base of factories from the United States to both Canada & Mexico (because of NAFTA) which did not work out well. In the end it was all Chinese goods primarily because of costs

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Interesting idea... have you any implementation ideas that you could share with us readers to get our wheels spinning. I will preface this by my testimony of having seen first hand an American manufacturer move its base of factories from the United States to both Canada & Mexico (because of NAFTA) which did not work out well. In the end it was all Chinese goods primarily because of costs

No specifics (I only pay taxes not write tax laws), but if we can level tariffs on Chinese goods, then we should be able to craft some sort of measures that would favor our own citizens for a change.

The main problem, as usual, will be all the businesses, lobbyists, and politicians who gain by not bringing manufacturing and jobs back to the US.

It cannot be done all at once, but eventually the Communist China offshore manufacturing option needs to be completely off the table. We were nuts to entertain the idea, much less actually allow offshoring our manufacturing there.

 

[church mouse guy]

No specifics (I only pay taxes not write tax laws), but if we can level tariffs on Chinese goods, then we should be able to craft some sort of measures that would favor our own citizens for a change.

The main problem, as usual, will be all the businesses, lobbyists, and politicians who gain by not bringing manufacturing and jobs back to the US.

It cannot be done all at once, but eventually the Communist China offshore manufacturing option needs to be completely off the table. We were nuts to entertain the idea, much less actually allow offshoring our manufacturing there.

I think that we in the rust belt paid the price more than the east coast did or the west coast did. Indiana was an agricultural state that was highly industrialized in the northern half. Towns that once were a string of factories are not just a factory here and there. Obama made things worse for the rust belt by his rules and regulations so that factory owners just shut down and went on trips around the world.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

No specifics (I only pay taxes not write tax laws), but if we can level tariffs on Chinese goods, then we should be able to craft some sort of measures that would favor our own citizens for a change.

The main problem, as usual, will be all the businesses, lobbyists, and politicians who gain by not bringing manufacturing and jobs back to the US.

It cannot be done all at once, but eventually the Communist China offshore manufacturing option needs to be completely off the table. We were nuts to entertain the idea, much less actually allow offshoring our manufacturing there.

I suppose we could move it to Vietnam or Cambodia

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I think that we in the rust belt paid the price more than the east coast did or the west coast did. Indiana was an agricultural state that was highly industrialized in the northern half. Towns that once were a string of factories are not just a factory here and there. Obama made things worse for the rust belt by his rules and regulations so that factory owners just shut down and went on trips around the world.

This happened everywhere... it’s called maximizing profits.

 

[church mouse guy]

This happened everywhere... it’s called maximizing profits.

It's called globalism and cheap Chinese labor.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

It's called globalism and cheap Chinese labor.

As I sighted.... maximizing profits. That’s what globalism and cheap labor is and you participate in that model each time you buy goods not made in America.

 

[church mouse guy]

As I sighted.... maximizing profits. That’s what globalism and cheap labor is and you participate in that model each time you buy goods not made in America.

I agree with you but what this Chinese virus pandemic has shown is the totalitarian nature of globalism. The globalist are angry about their impending economic losses in Communist China just as they were previously gloating that they had humilitated American labor and destroyed the American industrial base. Learn to code was their sneer. The UN, The Vatican, Islam, WHO, the European Union, etc. were in control. Everything was multilateral and multinational.

Now as we see them trying to put everyone under house arrest and make up rules such as you can't buy garden seeds, we know that they have an insatiable lust for power. Indiana Gov. Holcomb complained today that 100 peaceful protestors showed up at the Indiana Governor's Mansion yesterday. Now I am still working so I don't have time to appeal to Holcomb for a common sense approach but I can group him with the country club lot. I am counting on the tough-minded highly popular Gov. DeWine of Ohio to lead the MidWest back to work.

Globalism lost to the Chinese Flu released from the Wuhan Institute.

30 trillion in debt--our Congress stinks. Once again medical relief is being denied for Democrat political purposes.

 

[Adonia]

Globalism lost to the Chinese Flu released from the Wuhan Institute.

Let us hope so and that would be the best thing to come from the virus.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Let us hope so and that would be the best thing to come from the virus.

After 9/11 I had thought Islam would become a much more questionable ideology in the West and especially in the US. I could not have been more wrong.

The prevailing Western mindset has proven to be so gullible and unreasoning that I should not be the least surprised if Communist China gains an even greater foothold worldwide after this.

 

[church mouse guy]

After 9/11 I had thought Islam would become a much more questionable ideology in the West and especially in the US. I could not have been more wrong.

The prevailing Western mindset has proven to be so gullible and unreasoning that I should not be the least surprised if Communist China gains an even greater foothold worldwide after this.

Interesting observation! The ole Red-Green axis--leftist & Muslims (Green, Mohammed's PBUH favorite color).

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

Interesting observation! The ole Red-Green axis--leftist & Muslims (Green, Mohammed's PBUH favorite color).

Yes, and the axis is very authoritarian, I would say totalitarian.

 

[church mouse guy]

Yes, and the axis is very authoritarian, I would say totalitarian.

Another good point! We are seeing how totalitarian these people are with Governors such as Governor Holcomb of Indiana who did not think that a hundred Tea-Party types should go to his mansion on Sunday to ask if they could open their businesses--he called that not helpful--he should be called ex-Governor Holcomb.

 

[Adonia]

Another good point! We are seeing how totalitarian these people are with Governors such as Governor Holcomb of Indiana who did not think that a hundred Tea-Party types should go to his mansion on Sunday to ask if they could open their businesses--he called that not helpful--he should be called ex-Governor Holcomb.

Why should people have to ask? They have the right to make a living and some governors Executive Order is not the law of the state nor does it do away with the rights we all have under the U S Constitution.

 

[church mouse guy]

Why should people have to ask? They have the right to make a living and some governors Executive Order is not the law of the state nor does it do away with the rights we all have under the U S Constitution.

Good question. I don't know how that works. Evidently, these bosses have emergency powers to order everything shut down. I need a haircut. I am sick of this mess.