Are you Saved?

[Joseph_Botwinick]

only those that believe are chosen. The Lord always put belief and faith in the Scriptures why does some want to always leave it out?

Nobody wants to leave faith and belief out of the Bible. Calvinists affrim salvation through faith alone, which is not of ourselves, but a gift of God.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[Helen]

Can you answer my questions, Joseph, please?

 

[Joseph_Botwinick]

Joseph, go look at the context of 'be ye perfect...'

Secondly, you answered none of my questions but simply repeated what you always say. Please, I asked a series of questions. If you cannot answer them, say so.

Lastly, the Jesus I know and love and worship does not command the impossible. He actually loves all of us and will enable anyone who wants to follow Him to be able to.

God did not 'kidnap' us and force us to be married to His Son. We are, however, the bride. It is a love relationship. Love is a two-way street in this sort of relationship. We love because He first loved us, true. But, nevertheless, not all of those He loves have chosen to love Him back. And THAT is the crux of the matter.

Many are called; few are chosen. Why?

And if it is so totally beyond our ability to comprehend, why would God ever invite people to reason with Him? Why would He instruct us to seek Him?

Your concept of predestination is not only unbiblical, it denegrates God's character, denies the love and total atonement of Christ on the Cross, and makes mockery of much of the Bible.

Helen,

The Bible has already answered your questions as shown above. You just don't like the answer. As to your last statement in your last paragraph, I respond in the following manner:

Actually, it is your concept of a sovereign man and a weak god, and a fallen humanity which has enough goodness within them to seek God which totally denies the omnipotence of God and what scripture teaches about fallen mankind in Romans 3, and reduces God to someone who is just a little higher than we are, but who needs permission from his creation to save them and who is unable to keep any of his promises. If there is one molecule in the universe outside of God’s sovereignty that can thwart his will, then God is not sovereign and therefore is not God and cannot keep any promise he makes because someone might thwart his plan. Where is your hope then? In a sovereign God who is almighty and is over all and always gets his way, or in a “gentleman” who has no foundation for any of his promises? What if someone in his creation could thwart his will in his promises? Your concept of God is blasphemy and an insult to God and his Word.

Joseph Botwinick

 

[npetreley]

only those that believe are chosen. The Lord always put belief and faith in the Scriptures why does some want to always leave it out?

This is not a response. This is quoted for my own benefit.

 

[npetreley]

Just a special "Thank You" to John of Japan for your lengthy reply to my questions about teaching evangelism. I really appreciate your answers.

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[John of Japan]

Just a special "Thank You" to John of Japan for your lengthy reply to my questions about teaching evangelism. I really appreciate your answers.​

You are entirely welcome. :wavey: