Why do you reject the truth from Jesus that none can add or subtract from the canon, from the faith once and for all delivered unto the saints?
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Aren't Armstrong WW Church of God about same as the SDA?
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Why do you reject the truth from Jesus that none can add or subtract from the canon, from the faith once and for all delivered unto the saints?
BobRyan
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I appeal to these Bible texts -
Were that true then you would accept - and not reject Isaiah 30:8-11.
Were that true then you would accept - and not reject Is 66:23.
Were that true then you would accept and not reject 1Cor 14:1.
Were that true then you would accept and not reject 1Thess 5:19-20.
the list keeps going from here....
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You bend and wrench the acceptance of those texts into "extending the Cannon" --
Why do that?
Did Agabus "write scripture" or is the Bible false in claiming that he was a prophet?
Did 1Cor 14 - gentile prophets who met and "each ONE" had a "revelation" according to Paul -- write more scripture??
Your man-made-idea that all these prophets were writing scripture - does not hold up to the sola scriptura test.
How then can you complain that Catholics here are making stuff up or appealing to tradition -- if you are not willing to apply sola scriptura testing to your own speculation?
in Christ,
Bob
The thing is, bobryan, none of those prophets made false predictions as Ellen White has.
I know, you claim that her failed predictions were really conditional predictions - without the conditions stated of course.
The problem is that you have never explained how you know that her failed predictions were conditional predictions and not simply failed predictions.
Take the "food for worms" vision.
In that it did not come true - how do you know that is was a conditional prediction and not a failed prediction?
None of the people alive at that time are still alive today - so we know that her prediction did not come true.
What condition changed God's mind - and how do you know this?
I know, you claim that her failed predictions were really conditional predictions - without the conditions stated of course.
The problem is that you have never explained how you know that her failed predictions were conditional predictions and not simply failed predictions.
Take the "food for worms" vision.
In that it did not come true - how do you know that is was a conditional prediction and not a failed prediction?
None of the people alive at that time are still alive today - so we know that her prediction did not come true.
What condition changed God's mind - and how do you know this?
BobRyan
Well-Known Member
Nor has Ellen White.
And your efforts to sling accusations to the contrary - were already debunked a few dozen times.
As in the case of Jonah.
Obviously.
On the contrary - dozens of times I have insisted that you need to actually read Jeremiah 18 and Ezek 18 -- and then I explained the "details" to you.
hint - all of them died and decayed in the grave.
As stated before - take Moses' statement to the Jews in Egypt.
He did not predict "everyone over 40 come with me and die in the wilderness" as you seem to wish to "imagine".
When you use "any ol excuse will do" methods instead of actual Bible methods - it simply does not work.
Thanks for once again reminding us of these key Bible details.
in Christ,
Bob
Hint - Ellen White said that "some would be food for worms" and some would still be alive.
We are all aware of the guys that are worm food - but who is still alive to be caught up when Jesus returns?
Hint - N
NE. It is a FAILED PROPHESY.
BobRyan
Well-Known Member
You keep saying that as if you have credibility on that point.
Why keeping making stuff up??
Hint - it is not an "SDA Bible" it is not a bible translation it is not even a strict paraphrase - it is a commentary/paraphrase done by one individual without any denominational adoption of his paraphrase.
Just when you are determined not to let inconvenient details get in the way of your non-stop story-telling -- those facts of life keeping coming back to bite your storyline.
If we make this failing of yours - its own subject thread - it not going to go well for your stories.
Because at some point the readers are more concerned about actual facts than your ability to make up story after story.
Odd though that may appear to you at the moment.
in Christ,
Bob
ellen White taught a different gospel, that is enough to call her a false prophetess!
Do you deny she taught on emust obey the OT Law in order to keep and not forfeit salvation after death?
BobRyan
Well-Known Member
She affirmed God's Ten commandments as the moral law of God - just as does the "Baptist Confession of Faith" and just as did D.L. Moody. These are your own fellow Baptist sunday-keeping peers in your own denomination.
You are at war not only with the bible on this point - but with your own sunday-keeping Baptist peers!
How then can you expect to be taken seriously on that point - the very point where you are at war with your own Baptist peers.
in Christ,
Bob
What irt shows us is that you misunderstand what the Confessions and Moody taught, and more imortantly, you keep tryin gto place NT belivers under what Paul called the "burden of the Law!"
What you continually fail to address is that no example of a prophet or prophesy in the Bible proves that Ellen White's "food for worms vision" was anything other than a delusional false prophesy.
With all that you have at stake in your SDA followings I am really surprised that you do not have an answer to this very basic and critical question.