Well, that and the troops we do have being stretched pretty thin.
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Armed Citizens Stand Guard at Army Recruiting Stations
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Plus Obama wants to downsize another 40,000.
Most recruiting paperwork can be done on the internet. Face to face stuff could be done at armories, police stations, fire stations etc. The strip mall recruiting offices are not really necessary. What about job fairs and schools? Are they off limits for recruiting?
If some vets want to volunteer, have an auxillary MP, Guard/Reserve force to support the security of enlistment centers. This would include a serious refresher course in rules of engagement and weapon safety.
This will take more red ink, but we could give the Marines who guard the diplomats around the world some more places to guard.
We need to get serious about the situation. The enemy is in the camp and we are still stumbling with effective airport security. Now what?
Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Bro. James
If some vets want to volunteer, have an auxillary MP, Guard/Reserve force to support the security of enlistment centers. This would include a serious refresher course in rules of engagement and weapon safety.
This will take more red ink, but we could give the Marines who guard the diplomats around the world some more places to guard.
We need to get serious about the situation. The enemy is in the camp and we are still stumbling with effective airport security. Now what?
Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Bro. James
The online application method did not take off so well (it was, BTW, another way of hiring civilian companies to take over the process). I almost accepted a position with the company that ran the online program when I retired. Glad I didn't (I would have been looking for a job when they scraped the program). That was a year ago, maybe they're giving it another go. But it had issues.
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Many armories are now gated - and you need a DOD ID to enter (or be escorted by a DOD ID holder)
Store fronts are less imitating.
As I said before - overall recruiting offices are not a major target.
Terrorists find recruiting stations to be easy targets
The July 16 shootings in Chattanooga, Tennessee, which left four Marines dead and one sailor wounded, are part of a string of attacks — some successful and others thwarted — against military recruiting stations in recent years.
“Recruiting offices have been kind of on the leading edge of targets simply because they are both ubiquitous and they’re vulnerable,” said Brian Michael Jenkins, senior adviser to the president of Rand Corp.
The gunman in Chattanooga, identified as Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez and also killed in the incident, targeted a joint-service recruiting station and a nearby Navy Operational Support Center, where the Marines were killed and the sailor was wounded.
MARINE CORPS TIMES
4 Marines killed, 1 injured in Chattanooga attacks
Both al-Qaida and the Islamic State group have called for attacks on service members and their families.
Jenkins stressed that he has not seen any official confirmation about what the motivation was behind the shootings, but they could fall within the pattern of Islamic extremists targeting the U.S. military.
“These recruiting offices are everywhere,” he said. “They’re in shopping centers. They’re all around the country. So if you think about attacking a military target, as opposed to driving to some military base where there will be armed guards at the gate; if you want a geographically convenient, readily accessible target that the shooter can portray as a military target, then recruiting stations fit the bill. So the attack, while shocking, is not surprising.”
The U.S. should expect such attacks to continue as part of the overall war against al-Qaida and the Islamic State group, Jenkins said.
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/...nd-recruiting-stations-easy-targets/30263059/
The July 16 shootings in Chattanooga, Tennessee, which left four Marines dead and one sailor wounded, are part of a string of attacks — some successful and others thwarted — against military recruiting stations in recent years.
“Recruiting offices have been kind of on the leading edge of targets simply because they are both ubiquitous and they’re vulnerable,” said Brian Michael Jenkins, senior adviser to the president of Rand Corp.
The gunman in Chattanooga, identified as Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez and also killed in the incident, targeted a joint-service recruiting station and a nearby Navy Operational Support Center, where the Marines were killed and the sailor was wounded.
MARINE CORPS TIMES
4 Marines killed, 1 injured in Chattanooga attacks
Both al-Qaida and the Islamic State group have called for attacks on service members and their families.
Jenkins stressed that he has not seen any official confirmation about what the motivation was behind the shootings, but they could fall within the pattern of Islamic extremists targeting the U.S. military.
“These recruiting offices are everywhere,” he said. “They’re in shopping centers. They’re all around the country. So if you think about attacking a military target, as opposed to driving to some military base where there will be armed guards at the gate; if you want a geographically convenient, readily accessible target that the shooter can portray as a military target, then recruiting stations fit the bill. So the attack, while shocking, is not surprising.”
The U.S. should expect such attacks to continue as part of the overall war against al-Qaida and the Islamic State group, Jenkins said.
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/...nd-recruiting-stations-easy-targets/30263059/
salzer mtn
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Next time i'll bring the confederate flag.Thanks for weighing in. I'm hoping to hear from Sapper Woody as well, and Revmitchell, I believe he was an MP.
What, these people don't inspire battle confidence?
"Marse" Robert would be proud of you!
The snapshots were probably not taken by the local Army PAD.
A more uniformed appearance would certainly seem appropriate.
The latest BDU's may not help much.
Public confidence is still a fickle situation.
We seem to have more folks out and about in pickups armed with assault weapons and pit bulls. Some have a large Confederate Battle flag flying just above the trailer hitch.
Some folk fly the Union and the Confederate flags. What do they think about?
On the other hand, many seem to fly no flag at all--ever.
Where is Paul Revere?
Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Bro. James
A more uniformed appearance would certainly seem appropriate.
The latest BDU's may not help much.
Public confidence is still a fickle situation.
We seem to have more folks out and about in pickups armed with assault weapons and pit bulls. Some have a large Confederate Battle flag flying just above the trailer hitch.
Some folk fly the Union and the Confederate flags. What do they think about?
On the other hand, many seem to fly no flag at all--ever.
Where is Paul Revere?
Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Bro. James
These brave Marines & Sailor were only doing their duty. Some of those they contacted may not choose to join one of our armed forces, & given the current situation our soldiers face, I can see why they wouldn't. After what happened to these 4 Marines & 1 Sailor, I really can't blame some young person if he's hesitant about joining one of our armed forces these days.
The ops-tempo of one deployment after another is a whole lot more than it was 20 or so yrs. ago
To make matters worse, due to the increasing cuts in both the active duty & reserve forces [& our current CinC wants to make even more cuts], there isn't the manning available that there ought to be to support our men & women who're placed in deployments to places where it's not likely to do much permanent good after they pull out of these places.
Will Afghanistan continue to survive as a unified nation for very long? Nope. For centuries what we call Afghanistan was just a collection of tiny regions, each ruled by 1 or 2 tyrannical war lords who're constantly fighting each other over who's going to control the opium crops within that area.
What about Iraq? There it's a struggle to see who can control the sources & transport of oil to us. Have we REALLY accomplished with Operation Iraqi Freedom? I watched when our previous CinC landed on that carrier & stupidly proclaimed "Mission Accomplished"! Yeah...right!
A number of our nation's finest men & women were either killed or wounded or will now spend the rest of their lives either disabled, becoming victims of suicide, or dying due to lack of timely medical and/or mental treatment or therapy--or both--by a VA system that's a disgrace to the individuals & families who sacrificed all--only to be put on some anonymous, woefully incomplete waiting list our government guaranteed these people would never happen.
All the government has managed to do is to wring their hands & tell our vets that we just didn't count on having as many of you as we thought we would who're hanging on by a thread, & will have to do so for the rest of your lives. Sorry 'bout that.
Remember the ads from investment cos. that tell us, "Past performance isn't a guarantee of future outcomes."
Too bad that our military recruiters are told not to tell their prospects the same thing should they opt to join one of our armed forces these days. If you might discourage your potential clients that something bad might happen to you--even if you plan to be a recruiter like me!
Tell them only good things. There are some good things the military offers: Tuition assistance, or significant reduction for college-level classes you can take while on duty (Provided you're not being shot at while you're trying to study your textbook or class notes!). There's the chance to see places you'd never otherwise see, like Afghanistan, or Syria, where our current CinC wants to put US troops between the good anti-Assad forces & the bad ones. Lotsa luck finding out which side is which!
Please understand that I love America--with all its warts, it's STILL the greatest nation on earth! If I thought otherwise, I wouldn't have spent 1/3d of my life wearing theuniform that I willingly wore....and would do it again if I had to!
Thank God He allowed me to be born in the US! He just as easily could have allowed me to be born in some 3d world nation with little or no hope of improving my lot in life, & He'd be perfectly in His right to do so...but He didn't.
Instead, He allowed me to live in a country that still gives me the opportunity to get ahead in life if I avail myself of the many opportunities that are out there. America doesn't owe me anything, but I owe America much more than I could ever humanly expect to be able to pay back, no matter how long God allows me to live.
I'm thankful that I at least can have some voice in choosing whom I wish to see in governmental leadership in both local, and state, and federal capacities.
The Bible COMMANDS me, "that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour" (1 Tim. 2:1-3).
Maybe I don't particularly care for who's in whatever local, state, or federal leadership office, but that doesn't change what my Bible COMMANDS me to do.
If I correctly understand 1st cent. history, I believe that the "King" under which Paul & Timothy was living was probably Emperor Nero. He wasn't the kind of guy I'd want ruling over me, & probably neither Paul nor Timothy wanted him as their emperor. But neither of them had any voice in choosing who their ruler was. Yet the HS inspired Paul to urge Timothy to pray for him anyway.
Have you prayed for those in governmental authority over you? IMHO, doing so is one way to show your Savior that you want to do something that'll be "good and acceptable in His sight." Right?
The ops-tempo of one deployment after another is a whole lot more than it was 20 or so yrs. ago
To make matters worse, due to the increasing cuts in both the active duty & reserve forces [& our current CinC wants to make even more cuts], there isn't the manning available that there ought to be to support our men & women who're placed in deployments to places where it's not likely to do much permanent good after they pull out of these places.
Will Afghanistan continue to survive as a unified nation for very long? Nope. For centuries what we call Afghanistan was just a collection of tiny regions, each ruled by 1 or 2 tyrannical war lords who're constantly fighting each other over who's going to control the opium crops within that area.
What about Iraq? There it's a struggle to see who can control the sources & transport of oil to us. Have we REALLY accomplished with Operation Iraqi Freedom? I watched when our previous CinC landed on that carrier & stupidly proclaimed "Mission Accomplished"! Yeah...right!
A number of our nation's finest men & women were either killed or wounded or will now spend the rest of their lives either disabled, becoming victims of suicide, or dying due to lack of timely medical and/or mental treatment or therapy--or both--by a VA system that's a disgrace to the individuals & families who sacrificed all--only to be put on some anonymous, woefully incomplete waiting list our government guaranteed these people would never happen.
All the government has managed to do is to wring their hands & tell our vets that we just didn't count on having as many of you as we thought we would who're hanging on by a thread, & will have to do so for the rest of your lives. Sorry 'bout that.
Remember the ads from investment cos. that tell us, "Past performance isn't a guarantee of future outcomes."
Too bad that our military recruiters are told not to tell their prospects the same thing should they opt to join one of our armed forces these days. If you might discourage your potential clients that something bad might happen to you--even if you plan to be a recruiter like me!
Tell them only good things. There are some good things the military offers: Tuition assistance, or significant reduction for college-level classes you can take while on duty (Provided you're not being shot at while you're trying to study your textbook or class notes!). There's the chance to see places you'd never otherwise see, like Afghanistan, or Syria, where our current CinC wants to put US troops between the good anti-Assad forces & the bad ones. Lotsa luck finding out which side is which!
Please understand that I love America--with all its warts, it's STILL the greatest nation on earth! If I thought otherwise, I wouldn't have spent 1/3d of my life wearing theuniform that I willingly wore....and would do it again if I had to!
Thank God He allowed me to be born in the US! He just as easily could have allowed me to be born in some 3d world nation with little or no hope of improving my lot in life, & He'd be perfectly in His right to do so...but He didn't.
Instead, He allowed me to live in a country that still gives me the opportunity to get ahead in life if I avail myself of the many opportunities that are out there. America doesn't owe me anything, but I owe America much more than I could ever humanly expect to be able to pay back, no matter how long God allows me to live.
I'm thankful that I at least can have some voice in choosing whom I wish to see in governmental leadership in both local, and state, and federal capacities.
The Bible COMMANDS me, "that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men; For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour" (1 Tim. 2:1-3).
Maybe I don't particularly care for who's in whatever local, state, or federal leadership office, but that doesn't change what my Bible COMMANDS me to do.
If I correctly understand 1st cent. history, I believe that the "King" under which Paul & Timothy was living was probably Emperor Nero. He wasn't the kind of guy I'd want ruling over me, & probably neither Paul nor Timothy wanted him as their emperor. But neither of them had any voice in choosing who their ruler was. Yet the HS inspired Paul to urge Timothy to pray for him anyway.
Have you prayed for those in governmental authority over you? IMHO, doing so is one way to show your Savior that you want to do something that'll be "good and acceptable in His sight." Right?
This guy brought the flag:
And this guy brought the Knights Templar flag and his homemade bow and arrow kit. The way he's dressed I guess he thinks the Crusades are still happening.
Looks like some of them went straight from costume day at Comic-Con to guard duty at the recruitment offices.
This guy brought the flag:
And this guy brought the Knights Templar flag and his homemade bow and arrow kit. The way he's dressed I guess he thinks the Crusades are still happening.
Morons.
It has now become a sideshow for freaks.:BangHead: